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    "You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity."

    "What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving."

    "The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else."

    "When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation."

    "You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it..."
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    I see your non thinking ass still cuts and pastes.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I see your non thinking ass still cuts and pastes.
    Yoni's convinced!!

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    I think you have the liberals dumbfounded.

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    Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax

    Here's the other half of the equation. Not only should the government not be in the business of charity, the tax burden should be distributed equally among Americans.

    Everyone should pay a proportional percentage of their income. If you make a dime per year and the tax is 10%, send in a penny. If you make $100 billion, send in ten.

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    Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax

    Here's the other half of the equation. Not only should the government not be in the business of charity, the tax burden should be distributed equally among Americans.

    Everyone should pay a proportional percentage of their income. If you make a dime per year and the tax is 10%, send in a penny. If you make $100 billion, send in ten.
    Absolutely true.

    A 10% hing would probably do it.

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    I don't consider it charity. I consider it leveling out the income inequalities. And it has nothing to do with people that don't do anything.

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    Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax

    Here's the other half of the equation. Not only should the government not be in the business of charity, the tax burden should be distributed equally among Americans.

    Everyone should pay a proportional percentage of their income. If you make a dime per year and the tax is 10%, send in a penny. If you make $100 billion, send in ten.
    Burden? Someone who makes 100 billion, someone who makes a million dollars a year has 0 burdens. None whatsover. I don't care what anyone says, if you make a million dollars a year you have nothing to worry about.

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    On the last point in the OP, this is just not true. If you divide one trillion dollars by .5, then you have 2 trillion dollars which multiplies the original amount by 2.

    Our in problems are over, Dude.

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    I don't consider it charity. I consider it leveling out the income inequalities. And it has nothing to do with people that don't do anything.
    Stealing with others so you can feel like you be proud we are a giving nation? Is that it?

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    I don't consider it charity. I consider it leveling out the income inequalities. And it has nothing to do with people that don't do anything.
    Actually it does. Government charity, or whatever you want to call it, gets financed through debt. Debt that will fall squarely upon the shoulders of future generations of Americans who currently have no say in the matter, thus lowering their standard of living.

    Balance the ing budget and then I will gladly entertain a debate as to who needs government assistance. But to just put the petal to the metal on the debt-mobile and "level out the income inequalities" by stealing from our children is something every single one of us should be ashamed of.

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    I agree CG.

    Besides, what good has the war on poverty done over the last 40 years anyway, besides making poverty acceptable?

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    Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax

    Here's the other half of the equation. Not only should the government not be in the business of charity, the tax burden should be distributed equally among Americans.

    Everyone should pay a proportional percentage of their income. If you make a dime per year and the tax is 10%, send in a penny. If you make $100 billion, send in ten.
    why don't the dead enders run on that platform?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    the govt has some responsibility to provide basic services for those who need it. how hard is that to understand?

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    I agree CG.

    Besides, what good has the war on poverty done over the last 40 years anyway, besides making poverty acceptable?
    What good has any war done? War on drugs? Nothing. Poverty acceptable? To who? I don't think poverty is acceptable.

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    Actually it does. Government charity, or whatever you want to call it, gets financed through debt. Debt that will fall squarely upon the shoulders of future generations of Americans who currently have no say in the matter, thus lowering their standard of living.

    Balance the ing budget and then I will gladly entertain a debate as to who needs government assistance. But to just put the petal to the metal on the debt-mobile and "level out the income inequalities" by stealing from our children is something every single one of us should be ashamed of.
    Since when have we ever cared about the debt of future generations? It's a novel concept that Republicans like to dream up that it's somehow immoral that we're burdening future generation with debt. Well sorry to burst your bubble that's exactly what every future generation has ever done. That's why problems haven't been solved nor will they probably ever. Every generation just constantly pushes problems further down the line. This one is no exception, and neither will the next be either.

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    Stealing with others so you can feel like you be proud we are a giving nation? Is that it?
    Stealing? Nobody is stealing anything.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Since when have we ever cared about the debt of future generations? It's a novel concept that Republicans like to dream up that it's somehow immoral that we're burdening future generation with debt. Well sorry to burst your bubble that's exactly what every future generation has ever done. That's why problems haven't been solved nor will they probably ever. Every generation just constantly pushes problems further down the line. This one is no exception, and neither will the next be either.
    debt matters now because Obama is in the white house.. I didn't hear one complaint about not paying for the war...

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    Stealing with others so you can feel like you be proud we are a giving nation? Is that it?
    collecting taxes is stealing?

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    Stealing? Nobody is stealing anything.
    Well, I don't consider what I am forced to pay in taxes as my choice. I pay more than my fair share. I call it stealing.

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    debt matters now because Obama is in the white house.. I didn't hear one complaint about not paying for the war...
    No . Nobody was or is now complaining about what the war is costing, which is more than likely more than what social programs are costing. Yet all the conservatives want to do away with the social programs.

    Like I said, all we ever do is push problems further down each generation for future generations to push further down. It's nothing new.

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    collecting taxes is stealing?
    When they are spent on things the government has no business in, sure, I'll call it theft.

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    debt matters now because Obama is in the white house.. I didn't hear one complaint about not paying for the war...
    Obama's debt is in a league of its own. Any thinking American should be outraged at the exponential increase in our debt, our deficit, and our spending since he took office.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Well, I don't consider what I am forced to pay in taxes as my choice. I pay more than my fair share. I call it stealing.
    maybe you should take up arms against the govt? I'm sure you could find a few good tea baggers to join you.. I'd give you a ride if you need it

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Obama's debt is in a league of its own. Any thinking American should be outraged at the exponential increase in our debt, our deficit, and our spending since he took office.

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