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well, I was thinking about that earlier, If Grob could hang with Lewis on D, he will be a HUGE factor for the spurs in round 2.
Replace Brent Barry in the starting lineup with Glenn Robinson. That way Bruce Bowen can guard Ray Allen and the Spurs can put Robinson on Rashard Lewis. It works out defensively much better than praying for Barry to suddenly be able to guard Lewis.
Robinson has the bulk to turn Lewis into a jump shooter, rather than him being able to post up. Bowen can work his magic on Allen. Barry can get minutes off the bench ... and even if he doesn't, it's not a huge loss. He shot .368 percent against the Sonics and looked timid against his old team.
I'm not sure if Pop has the testicular for ude to make this switch, but it makes sense. A lot of sense, actually.
Another timvp hit?
Perhaps.
well, I was thinking about that earlier, If Grob could hang with Lewis on D, he will be a HUGE factor for the spurs in round 2.
Do you think he can play big minutes?
He's not a real good defender but it seems he works hard and fight when he's on the court.. resulting often with foul trouble... do you think he can go past that Timvp?
I thought he did a good job against Carmelo. Lewis is a similar player but would dominate a matchup versus Barry. The main thing with Lewis is you have to keep him off the block and get a hand up in his face on his threes. Robinson can do that, Barry can't.
I wouldn't play Robinson big minutes. Something like 15 minutes per game with the main job of keeping Lewis from going off at the beginning of each half.
ive been saying start robinson since we got him
okay. how about Radmanovic, who's going to guard him?
he had 28 pts in a game in the season and i think he could be a big threat to the Spurs from the 3pt area.
Brown updates, anyone?
Horry can guard Radman. If at three, you can even get away with Barry on him as long as he doesn't give him open looks.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...2429d427d.html
Devin Brown hasn't given up hope he'll be able to contribute in the playoffs for the Spurs. He just doesn't know when.
Brown has appeared in one game since he went on the injured list more than a month ago with a herniated disk in his lower back. He played six minutes in the Spurs' blowout victory in Game 2 but otherwise has spent his time on the practice court trying to regain the strength in his right leg.
"It's showing the coaches, mainly (Gregg Popovich), that I'm able to do the things that I used to do as far as being explosive and things like that," Brown said. "I'm still a little hesitant on some of the moves to the basket. It will get there. It's just taking some time."
Brown said he's confident he'll be back — at some point.
"Two weeks ago, I said two weeks, and that jumped on me," he said. "Every day I'm making improvements and able to do more and more and more. It could be tomorrow. It could be next week. But it's not panic time yet."
I like the idea and reasoning behind the idea of starting the Big Dogg but I don't think it'll happen...it does make sense though...
And one thing about the Bigg Dogg...yeah he's got to defend whoever he guards...but whoever he guards has to defend him as well...he won't pick up a lot of fouls but he's a load for these lean SF's to handle.
And the Bigg Dog has bee doubled with regularity in the playoffs before. He's that dominant of a scorer.
I like the idea but I just don't think Robinson has been with the team long enough for it to happen.
Plus the same logic used to start barry (Getting into the flow of the offense) would work well for big dog as well.
I just hope we don't stop using Barry in the 4th...he's played well and he keeps our offense going when it starts to bogs down. Pop let him handle the ball and run some penetration plays in the 4th and we built the biggest lead of the entire game with him doing...just like we did in our last game.
i must have missed that
somehow i always just manage to focus on him missing threes
then i see the boxscore and see how he's like 3rd in assists
It's not that he always gets assists, it's just that our offense runs more smoothly when he gets to touch the ball...I mean he's made his share of TO's in this series but if you ask me he's still been the best passer on the team in terms of team ball and it seems like we never lose the lead when he's on the court. He's got very good court awareness...I think it's actually better than Parker's and even Manu's...Parker and Manu have been scoring like mofos in this series...and the last two games I think Denver was starting to do a better job of messing up their penetrations.
I thought of one other reason that Bigg Dogg probably won't start...
Listening to the Pop show the other day Pop said something that could be considered kind of revealing...
When asked about how he feels about Robinson's impact on the team this season...he said he's been good, but he does't expect him to contribute much this year.
It's revealing for 2 reasons.
#1.Pop said he doesn't expect him to contribute much.
#2.It sounds like Pop wants to try and bring Big Dogg back next season...he could have just said it that way for lack of a better term...but it does sound like he wants him back if possible...and why wouldn't he with the at ude and ability the guy has shown?
I think it's possible Robinson could be signed for the MLE, I think there is a chance the Spurs might consider doing that because he doesn't have to adjust to the NBA like Scola will have to do, we actually have a glut of bigs. And they don't have to bring Scola over next season, he's still got one year left on his Euro contract...and maybe Robinson could be signed for less anyway...but...
That means if Pop plays him against Seattle and Bigg Dog goes off for 10-15 PPG, shows he is still the Big Dog, but with an improved at ude...there is no chance of that happening. And Pop doesn't really have to start him to be able to put him on Rashard...
Last edited by whottt; 05-05-2005 at 04:48 AM.
Eh, go for it. I think Lewis would torch Robinson, but you never know. I'd actually think about putting Bowen on Lewis and having Barry or Ginobili do their best with Allen. Lewis likes getting pestered defensively even less then Allen. Ray will get his points, no matter how many shots it takes, but if Rashard starts putting up big points it could spell trouble for the Spurs.
I'm all for benching Barry at this point though. It's clear the fans have already chosen their goat, and even though Robinson hasn't really done anything Barry hasn't since he's gotten here, he's the new hero. The Ginobili/Barry switch was brilliant during Game 2, but since then Barry still hasn't been getting many touches even though he's starting. And since Pop has started subbing Manu in as little as four minutes into the start of the halves, I wonder if the move is still as effective or makes a real difference. But if you're going to continue bringing Manu off the bench as a spark, well, Barry isn't getting the touches and isn't going to get the touches, so you might as well play Robinson and see what he can do out there. At least you know he wont pass up all the shots Brent does.
Horry can deal with Radman.
Lewis is playing like a girl anyway, so I wouldn't mind putting a confident Big Dog on him. Swish.
You mean like saying the Nazr-Rose trade was a bad one?Another timvp hit?
Manu can guard Lewis and Bruce can guard Allen.
If you start Manu, then Ray Allen has to play defense the whole time, something that he did not have to do against Sacramento. Manu will run Ray through so many screens that he will be totally tired out by the 4th Q, his offense will be ineffective.
Barry can be first off the bench when eithet Allen or Lewis take their first break.
Big Dog can not stay with Lewis. Carmello blew by him to fast last night it was like he was not even guarded at all. Allen will run Bruce around so much that he will not be able to help at all on Lewis.
Better to match strengh against strength....start Manu and Bowen.
Allen is that team. You want BB on Allen. You need him on Allen.
As for GRobinson, I'll admit that prior to the 1st round I would've thought had I been asked that Anthony would light him up. But GRobinson has proven to be much more adept at fitting into the Spurs' D and also playing man to man defense than I would've expected.
This is not to say that I would expect GRobinson to shut down Lewis but it does improve the Spurs' overall defensive scheme, especially with Bowen free to get into Allen's head all night long. Footspeed would be somewhat of a concern, since Seattle has the horses to get out and run, which would limit the effectiveness of GRob defensively.
What concerns me slightly is the impact that such a lineup would have for the Spurs on the offensive end to start the game. Tony would have to come out aggressive. The Spurs would need to run a play or two to try to get GRobinson off, since you don't have the threat to drive from the perimeter that Manu or Barry gives you. Still, with TD, TP & GRob you'd have three scorers out on the floor.
If you start GRob, you would only have 1 player who can penetrate and run the defense through screens in the starting lineup. Big Dog is a post up player, Bowen is a spot up shooter, Nazr is a post up player, and then you have TD and TP.
Allen would be off the hook defensively because all he would have to do is hang around Bowen on the arc and he would essentially have used no energy whatsoever on that end.
Manu needs to start.
GRobinson also has a jumpshot. What you would want is a few screen rolls with TP and GRob at one of the elbows.
He has a jumpshot, but he is not a creator who would tire out Ray Allen....am I right?
I demand at least partial credit on this one if it happens.Another timvp hit?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...220#post247220
That's BB's job on the defensive end. Guarding Lewis and ensuring Bowen is on Allen matters much more than making Allen work to his max defensively.
Spurm, simmer down....it is only a pipe dream...Pop would have to be on the crack pipe to even consider the move.
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