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Tell us what could go wrong, Darrin.
What could go wrong?
"15 years later, can McVeigh's words help us understand today's anti-government extremists?"
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Tell us what could go wrong, Darrin.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2...w-mccarthyite/Every government lives in fear of its own citizens. The fear waxes and wanes, as the tides of public opinion and economic ups and downs crest and wash over the political landscape. In good times, the fear is somewhat subtle: discontent, albeit ever-present, is masked by prosperity and contained; in bad times, the fear overflows into the everyday life of the citizenry, which is viewed with the utmost su ion by the ruling elite. In Washington, they’re wondering: how long will they put up with it?
Today, the answer to that question is: not much longer – and the fear is manifest in the latest campaign against "extremism," which is being touted by the "mainstream" media, the authorities, and the professional "extremist"-hunters who work in tandem with both. To give you the flavor of the witch-hunting atmosphere being whipped up by the media-FBI complex, get a load of Rachel Maddow, the "liberal" MSNBC commentator, last Thursday night. After running a videotaped interview with anti-abortion militant Scott Roeder – recently sentenced to life in prison for the murder of an abortion doctor – in which Roeder expressed support for the "sovereignist" doctrine that the federal government has no right to ins ute drivers’ licenses, she averred:
"So, yes, so you can see Roeder as an anti-abortion extremist. You can also identify anti-abortion extremism as one branch of the broader movement of violent, militant, anti-government extremism in this country. We associate that movement with the early and mid-’90s, which is when that tape of Scott Roeder that you just saw was filmed. But just in the last 18 months since President Obama took office, a white supremacist shot and killed a security guard in an attack on the Holocaust Museum in Washington. An anti-tax extremist flew a plane into a building in Texas that housed an IRS office. He killed an IRS worker. Nine suspected militia members [were] arrested for allegedly plotting an attack on police officers as part of a war they wanted to wage against the United States government. A Tennessee white supremacist convicted of plotting to kill President Obama near the end of the presidential campaign in ‘08.
"And, of course, there’s Scott Roeder killing Dr. George Tiller.
"And, of course, there’s the wave of threats and property damage against members of Congress after the health reform bill passed.
"Is it helpful to find the connections between these disparate acts, to understand what American extremism is now? Or are these all individual crazy people with no connection to politics, no connection to each other, no connection to a broader movement or to the broader country at large? What’s the better way to understand this and is this stuff going to stop? Joining us now is Eugene Robinson…"
One can easily guess Robinson’s answer to Maddow’s largely rhetorical question, but let’s rewind just a bit, and note the smearing methodology employed here: the classic amalgam. Grouped together in one intellectual package deal are:
- "antigovernment" activists
- white supremacists out to kill the President,
- antiabortion fanatics out to kill abortionists,
- and crazed anti-Semites out to attack the Holocaust Museum.
One of these things is not like the others, and Maddow – no dummy – knows it.
That’s why the plaintive tone is taken – "Is it helpful?" – when posing the question of whether this is a unitary movement that needs to be infiltrated by law enforcement and its members arrested and jailed. The whole idea is to discredit "antigovernment" (i.e. pro-liberty) movements and politicians in the mainstream by associating them with hate and – most importantly – violence, or the threat of it.
It's not too different from tarring all civil libertarians or Muslims with the broad brush of extremism, but certainly no less de able.
How do McVeigh's words help us understand anti-government extremism today?
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One of the chicks on Amazing Race looks like that Rachel Maddow guy.
That dude is whacked out of his mind.
I'm for sure giving Maddow my ratings. I enjoyed the teaser on her show yesterday. Pretty crazy that McVeigh was interviewed just outside of Waco when that was going down.
That networks needs all the help they can get.
the tens of people that watch MSNBC might be misinformed.
That's actually pretty funny.
Is Rachel Maddows a carpet bagger?
Fix'd.
This special is fail, btw.
No. A carpet bagger is a prank for girls. When the victim falls a asleep, the girl prankster rubs her vagina all over the victims face. I see Maddows doing this unless Maddows has a and balls. Anyone know?
I wonder if she's ever had Noah Wyle on her show as a guest. That would be interesting.
Maddows has the deeper voice. I could tell them apart by that.
Darrin, you still haven't told us what could go wrong.
Speak up. You started this thread.
I've never heard that particular definition in my life, and I would know. I also called around to my sources and they've never heard of it either. It makes zero sense.
We can, however, invent a new term. Beaver Bopping - you heard it hear first!
Use your words Darrin.
Tell us all what will go wrong and make the special that you haven't watched and has yet to even air fail.
You heard it here first then. Rachel Maddows is a dude in drag so he can't be a carpet bagger.
Seriously, does anyone know if the new health care bill will cover Maddows penectomy?
She's just a lesbian. No need to obsess about that, but I guess it's a good way to avoid talking about the program.
Looks like Darrin ran away from the thread. He'll be back later to whine about me and not discuss the program. Book it.
Meh, you're just irrelevant.
Ever talk to any of the "sovereignists"? (for lack of a better term)
These are the kinds of people that write 8 page manifestos over traffic tickets.
Reading through some of that stuff is like reading the Chewbacca defense for the first time.
People with loose grips on reality now have a medium to reinforce each others' ideas these days. From the pseudo-scientific "microwave ovens will give ya cancer, its in the literature", to the outright bizarre "I saw the elder Bush morph into a reptile" (no, I'm not making that one up).
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