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You're stretching a little
is the most underrated flopper in the nba sons...everyone complains about chris fall, anderson varejao, or manu ginobili but this dude gets atleast 6-8 FTAs per game off of a cot damn fadeaway. think about that for a minute, he's fading away going away from the defender yet he manages to get a call from it-- not even MJ himself came close to getting calls off that move like Dirk does. so whats his secret? go flying like a little girl every single time after the release, so i just wanted to give him props for his high basketball iq
sadly for him though sons the spurs will take care of business in Game 2 and follow that up with two wins at home
You're stretching a little
LOL bonner guarding dirk
If you're going to judge flopping based on FT attempts, then I guess Wade and Howard are some of the best floppers in the NBA.
Thisis the most underrated flopper in the nba sons...everyone complains about chris fall, anderson varejao, or manu ginobili but this dude gets atleast 6-8 FTAs per game off of a cot damn fadeaway. think about that for a minute, he's fading away going away from the defender yet he manages to get a call from it-- not even MJ himself came close to getting calls off that move like Dirk does. so whats his secret? go flying like a little girl every single time after the release, so i just wanted to give him props for his high basketball iq
sadly for him though sons the spurs will take care of business in Game 2 and follow that up with two wins at home
Dirk is certainly a great offensive flopper and gets his fair share of superstar calls, but I don't even know if he would make my top 10 offensive floppers tbh..
Gasol(#1), Maggette, Kevin Martin, Devin Harris, Durant, Billups, Paul, Pierce and Gerald Wallace off the top of my head without question..
Anthony(flailing arms), Kyle Lowry, Kobe(flailing arms), Andre Miller and Bosh are arguable as well IMO..
I'm probably forgetting a bunch..a lot of them in today's NBA(yes, I'm aware that Parker and Gino do it as well)..
He's a European, so you have to give him some leeway.
Im talking about the way Dirk gets those FTs, not so much the quan y (although the amount does add to the ridiculousness of this whole thing).
Most, if not all, of those guys attack the rim and defenders relentlessly though regardless of their flopping (which I agree with)...so I mean theyre moreso exaggerating contact more than faking it. Whereas in this particular move for Dirk he's away from the basket, going away from the defender, away from contact and somehow he gets a call. We are truly witnessing the art of flopping out there with Dirk's fadeaway, he needs to be given props for it. Smart and high basketball iq at its finest.
Ever played basketball you re ?? When you shoot,every single touch on your elbow usually causes you to miss and throws your shot off balance,because the elbow is the most crucial part of the arm in shooting,so when you es try to block such an unblockable shot,you hit his elbow,resulting in a foul..Of course being a superstar gives him the foul more times than not,but that's not Dirk's fault...
Because Im talking about plays where players hit his elbow right?
Obviously that s a foul. Im talking about when he goes flying like a little girl (which a slap on the elbow doesnt do). He goes flying like that probably like 7 times out of 10 on the fadeaway after his release. Check his shot at the end of the first half in game 1 as a clear example, Mason didnt touch him he had his hands straight up...but Dirk goes flying after the release and he gets an and1. This happens several times a game, hence the 6-8 FTAs I originally stated. Dirk's fadeaway is truly the art of flopping, props
Just admit and be grateful that your German pussy gets bogus calls on a move that involves minimal contact and move the on. Quit trying to defend the indefensible. Spurs will rape that ass in Game 2 either way.
Dirk will go down as the greatest ringless go-to-guy in NBA history. Once a choker, always a choker
FkLA with the Dirk hate again.
Dirk>Manu. Get over it.
just because Dirk makes more fadeaways than slams it doesn't mean he's predestined to be less likely to draw calls. If you don't put harsh pressure on him, 90% of times he makes the jumper, but it's always not easy to keep the pressure high without committing a foul. Sometimes the fouls are sheltered well, like slightly tipping his elbow which can hardly get recognized but always works, so what always happens is we don't see the foul while it is being made. We're not talking about someone who avails every chance he gets all over the court to draw fouls on the opposing player who's head-to-head defending him, and who more often is innocent than not.
Sorry but I don't see Spurs have someone who's likely to get the job done defending Dirk. Muscle and athleticism don't work when it comes to the defense of Dirk. You have to move faster and smarter than him to hold his FG% under an acceptable figure, like Ryan Bowen managed to do in 05, Rockets lost that series but they struggled to game 7, which was obviously overachieved for them.Just admit and be grateful that your German pussy gets bogus calls on a move that involves minimal contact and move the on. Quit trying to defend the indefensible. Spurs will rape that ass in Game 2 either way.
1-0 got,get over itBecause Im talking about plays where players hit his elbow right?
Obviously that s a foul. Im talking about when he goes flying like a little girl (which a slap on the elbow doesnt do). He goes flying like that probably like 7 times out of 10 on the fadeaway after his release. Check his shot at the end of the first half in game 1 as a clear example, Mason didnt touch him he had his hands straight up...but Dirk goes flying after the release and he gets an and1. This happens several times a game, hence the 6-8 FTAs I originally stated. Dirk's fadeaway is truly the art of flopping, props
Not a single foul Dirk got in game 1 was doubtful, everyone was clear cut. I dare you to find video of a call he got that he didn't deserve!
I never do this kind of stuff but I am willing to do a sign/avatar bet. I will write something of your choice on my profile as long as the playoffs continue, you do the same if you can't produce a good evidence.
Either put up or shut up!
lol internet tough guy.
No, no internet tough guy. I am not kicking your ass or anything. Just a simple bet to prove who's right. Are you up for it?
Flopping is part of the game. It can be a pretty nice advantage for players who do it effectively. Stop being a pussy. Or did you forget when Manu used it to a great advantage as one of the best floppers in the league? If you can get away with it and it helps your team win, do it. I repeat, stop being a pussy.
ive been saying this since 2006.
unlike those other players, who are mostly slashers and are relatively small, quick guards, or dominant post-bigs (positions that naturally draw more fouls), Dirt is a SEVEN FOOT TALL JUMP SHOOTER.
there has never, in the history of the NBA, been a player with his size and playing style that has got as many foul calls as this guy does. think about that.
here is a man 7ft+ standing outside the paint often guarded by a man half a foot shorter, who flails around as if hes fighting off a grizzly bear, buried his head in the guys chest then FADES AWAY from the tiny defender, and whatever happens next, there is an AUTOMATIC whistle from the refs despite Dirt creating ALL the contact himself, and the defender not even touching him.
we have never seen a phenomenon like this in the NBA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc8D7lbna0o
Last edited by poop; 04-20-2010 at 10:26 AM.
sons I have been saying this about Dirk for years. also the fact that he is white helps boost his free throw attempts per game as well. the NBA is desperate to have a half ass decent white player to market.
spurs lose game one because refs are racists.
makes perfect sense.
the NBA has never seen anyone like Dirk period! A 7footer who's arguably the best shooter in the league from anywhere in the court, almost automatic if you leave him open. So smaller guys, who have no chance of guarding his shot often try to get underneath him, body him up, take up his space. Which means they often end up fouling him. It's pretty simple honestly.
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