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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    At this point, is he a top 10 player?

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Sure he is. Probably top 9.

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    hhmm, yeah probably.

    howEVA!

    No debate as the 2nd best player; that's D-Whistle.

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    #FreeGiuseppe BlackSwordsMan's Avatar
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    no surprises here
    what happens when the refs are no longer on your side? you lose
    again no trash talk

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    You'd be a dumbass to think Kobe and his 30% shooting belongs in the Top 10 list.


    ing Westbrook>Kobe right now

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    Fuck these finals picc84's Avatar
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    Top 20.

    2010 body, 2005 mind. Thats the goddamn problem with his ass.

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    boring is a quality
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    He's human just like Duncan and they are getting old, father time doesn't forgive anyone

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    At this point, is he a top 10 player?
    Dumb


    ing Westbrook>Kobe right now
    Dumber

    Top 20.

    2010 body, 2005 mind. Thats the goddamn problem with his ass.
    Dumbest

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    Probably. After the top-4, you can go in a lot of different ways. 10-15 guys more or less at the same level.

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    Dumb



    Dumber



    Dumbest
    Check your panties for purple and gold blood

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    lol Bynum

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    Spurs > Yankees > Knicks Technique's Avatar
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    butthurt laker fan is butthurt

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    I am not redwood DJ Mbenga's Avatar
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    no surprises here
    what happens when the refs are no longer on your side? you lose
    again no trash talk
    you arent being sarcastic there. it actually happened.

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    If I were an LA fan I'd be happy about this. Better to get this Kobe chucking game out of the way in the first round.

    I swear he has to relearn how to trust his teammates every year. He started to realize it towards the very end of today's game, but by then, the Thunder were already running out with the win.

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    Well who are ya'lls rank 2 through 10 players, let's see if we can name 9 people better than kobe.

    bronbron is obviously rank 1, no argument there


    lebron, nowitzki, dwade, kevin durant, dwight howard, tim duncan are top 10. I'll continue to add as obvious ones come to mind.


    edit again: actually i dont know about durant vs kobe. if we're looking strictly last few months, then yes durant is better than kobe.

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    If I were an LA fan I'd be happy about this. Better to get this Kobe chucking game out of the way in the first round.

    I swear he has to relearn how to trust his teammates every year. He started to realize it towards the very end of today's game, but by then, the Thunder were already running out with the win.
    Bull . He ONLY realized it after he ing chucked up 8 BRICKS in a row and SOMEBODY probably said something (i doubt it was phil). then he started playing team ball and we actually had a few passes and what do you know...we scored.

    The lakers had 7 pts in the 4Q with 5 minutes left...they finished with 21....

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    Well who are ya'lls rank 2 through 10 players, let's see if we can name 9 people better than kobe.

    bronbron is obviously rank 1, no argument there
    in the playoffs right now?

    bron
    durant
    dwight
    dirk
    gasol
    manu
    westbrook
    derrick rose
    melo
    deron
    nash
    amare

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    Bull . He ONLY realized it after he ing chucked up 8 BRICKS in a row and SOMEBODY probably said something (i doubt it was phil). then he started playing team ball and we actually had a few passes and what do you know...we scored.

    The lakers had 7 pts in the 4Q with 5 minutes left...they finished with 21....
    So whats bull about my post? I didn't say Kobe willingly trusted his teammates today. It took him 18 missed shots to realize that, but at least for LA he realized that at the end of the game (or so it seemed).

    This is the biggest flaw in Kobe's game and year after year he needs to relearn. Sometimes it takes a game like this for him to realize it whether it be learning from himself or a teammate actually standing up to him.

    So I still don't get your post.

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    Well who are ya'lls rank 2 through 10 players, let's see if we can name 9 people better than kobe.

    bronbron is obviously rank 1, no argument there


    lebron, nowitzki, dwade, kevin durant are top 10. I'll continue to add as obvious ones come to mind.
    WIth how Kobe's finger is that is too easy. I don't know if Kobe is just injured this year and will be healthy next year or if thats it...and Kobe is done.

    But as of RIGHT NOW

    LeBron
    Dwight
    Wade
    Deron
    Dirk
    Melo
    Durant
    Westbrook
    Rose
    Stephen Jackson
    Gerald Wallace maybe?
    Joe Johnson
    B Roy
    Nash
    Amare
    Duncan
    Manu
    .........

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    So whats bull about my post? I didn't say Kobe willingly trusted his teammates today. It took him 18 missed shots to realize that, but at least for LA he realized that at the end of the game (or so it seemed).

    This is the biggest flaw in Kobe's game and year after year he needs to relearn. Sometimes it takes a game like this for him to realize it whether it be learning from himself or a teammate actually standing up to him.

    So I still don't get your post.
    i agree. Guess I am just mad. I agree with you.

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    Fuck these finals picc84's Avatar
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    Kobe - 29 shots
    Gasol, Odom, Bynum - 28 shots

    The mother ing DAY after "shoot better or shoot less". You can't even write this .

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    wow forgot about melo. damn, too many names who are definitively playing better than kobe at the moment.

    i don't think i'm ready for the beginning of the end for kobe. he deserves a steady, step-wise decline, not this fall off the cliff B.S. he's going through.

    i'd like to see him start by deferring to gasol more. that'd be a good start. start with low FGA efficient scoring, and slowly work your way up.

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    wow forgot about melo. damn, too many names who are definitively playing better than kobe at the moment.

    i don't think i'm ready for the beginning of the end for kobe. he deserves a steady, step-wise decline, not this fall off the cliff B.S. he's going through.

    i'd like to see him start by deferring to gasol more. that'd be a good start. start with low FGA efficient scoring, and slowly work your way up.
    we wont know until next year

    i refuse to believe kobe would absolutely fall of a cliff like this.

    im positive its him somewhat SLOWLY declining but coupled with the injuries it makes it look HORRID.


    there is still no excuse for how he is playing though. ZERO excuse. 29 nig shots.


    29

    Gasol + Odom + Bynum shots?

    28


    ME.

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    kobe - 29 shots
    gasol, odom, bynum - 28 shots

    the mother ing day after "shoot better or shoot less". You can't even write this .

    us picc. us.

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    Kobe - 29 shots
    Gasol, Odom, Bynum - 28 shots

    The mother ing DAY after "shoot better or shoot less". You can't even write this .
    Kobe basically took a dump on Phil's advice. Kobe's inner Iverson came out tonight.

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