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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Let me be clear: I loved the Buler/Haywood/Stevenson trade when it happened. I still love it now. Despite what's happening to them in this series, these Mavs are significantly improved over last season. The Butler trade was the right move at the time it was made.

    But was it the best move to make? I ask this question:

    What if the Mavs made a trade for Stephen Jackson when he was, not only available, but practically begging to come to Dallas? On top of that, even Nellie was pushing for him to be traded to Dallas.

    How much different and/or better would this team be if Jackson was here instead of Butler/Haywood? Would they even be better at all?

    Honestly I have no clue. I don't see Stephen Jackson play enough to pass judgement. But I remember what he did in 2003, I remember what he did in 2007, and I saw him take a mediocre lottery team and turn them into a playoff team this season.

    What if?

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    What if your Mom had a ...WGAS...Mavs are mediocre team who deserves to lose the a better team the Spurs. This off-season gonna be interesting....Mavs either gonna get a big piece for next year or blow it up and miss the playoffs


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    Hard to say because that domino would cause the others to also fall in different directions.

    I'll do one better. How about the Howard for Gerald Wallace when it was thrown out?

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    I'll do one better. How about the Howard for Gerald Wallace when it was thrown out?
    tbh I've already posted ad nauseam on that subject.

    If I was GM the past 3 years we'd currently have a starting lineup of -

    Baron Davis
    Corey Maggette
    Gerald Wallace
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Chris Kaman

    and we'd be curbstomping the league right now.

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    This teams failure continues to be relying on jumpshots to win games and without either a slashing guard or a two guard that can create for others, early playoff exits will continue. A true low post presence would be great bc mavs cannot get easy baskets to save their lives.

    Seems like 2006 was more of an abberation bc the jumpers happened to fall up until 6min left of Game 3 of the finals

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    Not a Mav fan, but still......J. J. Barea will still be getting minutes, it wouldn't help Jason Terry miss wide open shots, and even if Stephen Jackson played defense and contribute a little on offense, what makes you think that everyone else will help him on the defensive end? Everyone has to contribute if they want to go deeper in the playoffs. Overall, it would make them better, but they would still have weaknesses that they one player won't take care of.

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    tbh I've already posted ad nauseam on that subject.

    If I was GM the past 3 years we'd currently have a starting lineup of -

    Baron Davis
    Corey Maggette
    Gerald Wallace
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Chris Kaman

    and we'd be curbstomping the league right now.

    Wouldn't we have Kobe instead of Dirk when det was on the table, tbh?

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Wouldn't we have Kobe instead of Dirk when det was on the table, tbh?
    true tbh, forgot about det one

    Baron Davis
    KOBE
    G-Force
    Brandon Bass
    Kaman

    Maggette as 6th man

    even further curbstompage.

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    Mavs need a guard who can penetrate consistently*. Period.





    * Who's over 5'7"

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    If you were GM, Mono, would you have botched the Marcin Gortat signing?

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    Mavs need a guard who can penetrate consistently*. Period.





    * Who's over 5'7"
    Our little French er can do that.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    If you were GM, Mono, would you have botched the Marcin Gortat signing?
    how did they botch it? as far as I know, they offered the full MLE and Orlando simply matched it. Regardless of what happened with Gortat, they weren't going to give Bass that kind of money. Everyone in the media played it out like highway robbery, but in reality the Mavs simply went by the gameplan they had from the beginning.

    Or is that just what they want us to thing?

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    Mavs need a guard who can penetrate consistently*. Period.





    * Who's over 5'7"
    Aren't the Mavs supposed to be targeting Wade for next season?

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    Our little French er can do that.
    Where the is he?

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    Aren't the Mavs supposed to be targeting Wade for next season?
    And a load of other teams with cap space... Mavs will have to do an S and T and that will be very difficult to entice another team to do that, even with Damps contract

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    how did they botch it? as far as I know, they offered the full MLE and Orlando simply matched it. Regardless of what happened with Gortat, they weren't going to give Bass that kind of money. Everyone in the media played it out like highway robbery, but in reality the Mavs simply went by the gameplan they had from the beginning.

    Or is that just what they want us to thing?
    You would have played it "Mono Cool". Saying like "Eh, we'll try to get this Polish , but we really don't care one way or the other". Total smokescreen. Otis would have his pants. Or shat them. Whatever.

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    Rotting next to Lincoln Neck and Marion.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    You would have played it "Mono Cool". Saying like "Eh, we'll try to get this Polish , but we really don't care one way or the other". Total smokescreen. Otis would have his pants. Or shat them. Whatever.
    tbh I never would have thrown the full MLE at a backup C who only had 1 good game.

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    Butler + Haywood > Jackson, imho.

    I don't know what Rick sees in Dampier that is better than what Brendan brings.

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    Aren't the Mavs supposed to be targeting Wade for next season?
    Do they have the cap space to do that?

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    Butler + Haywood > Jackson, imho.

    I don't know what Rick sees in Dampier that is better than what Brendan brings.
    True but the mismanagment of lineups by Rick doesn't matter who is on this team

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    Do they have the cap space to do that?
    Only using Damp/Butler in a sign and trade. But there's no way in Wade is coming to Dallas. It's either Chicago or staying in Miami for him.

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    I don't think you would have ever gotten Jackson, because Nellie would no way help Cuban in any possible way by sending Jackson to the Mavs.
    Nellie initially wanted to work exclusively with Dallas to get Jackson there. From what I hear, he only looked elsewhere for a trade after Dallas rejected the idea.

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    Did he and Cuban make up? I remember he was sueing Cuban for not paid like 6 million dollars or something?
    Yeah, but apparently they have made up. They were even friendly to each other and exchanged a hug (or something gay like that) after the last Mavs/GS game.

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    Yeah, but apparently they have made up. They were even friendly to each other and exchanged a hug (or something gay like that) after the last Mavs/GS game.
    I think Nelly still hates his guts, but there's still a warm spot in his heart for his son.

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