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keep trying whottt
and for the record Barry definately helps the team when he is on the floor regardless of whether is hsot is on or off.
1st quarter - 1 touch(as anything other than setting the initial play), 1 basket.
Manu in the game now at the 6:50 mark.
Barry back in for Bowen at the 1:50 mark.
1 touch, 1 basket.
Total for the 1st quarter: two touches in transition.
Last edited by whottt; 05-08-2005 at 07:35 PM.
and for the record Barry definately helps the team when he is on the floor regardless of whether is hsot is on or off.
It's time to end all the "gutless" accusations against Barry...I can't really defend his shooting...but I can prove that he isn't very involved in the offense...
None of the guys look for him on penetration plays at any other time than late in the clock....
2nd Quarter - through the @8:42 minute mark: 5 touches, 1 assist, 1 3PA while covered, 1 pass that lead to a basket, 1 pass to a wide open Manu for the 3, and 1 bad idea of a pass to Nazr.
This was a heavily active segment for Barry, mainly due to some potential fastbreak chances in which Barry was the lead man....they ended up slowing it up and running the half court and I liked the way Pop is using him as PG some.
An additional 1 touch through the 7:19 point...again when pushing the ball, passed to Bowen, Bowen passed to Duncan for a score.
7:19: Manu in for Barry.
5:00: Barry in for Bowen
2:25: 1 touch for a 3.
1:30: 1 touch, passed to Parker for missed 3PA.
:50: 1 touch, passed to someone or other, no basket.
Total for second quarter: 9 touches, 2 3pa's(one he wasn't open), 1 3pm, 2 assists, 2 passes that lead to scores, 1 pass to a wide open Manu the 3.
I should note, Barry has only gotten 1 open look in this game, in the half court set.
I should also note that second quarter was IMO the most he has touched the ball in a playoff game yet...just beating out what he did in the late 3rd of game 5 VS the finals. Barry is handling the ball more.
We also might want to start calling Barry the Rashard stopper lmao, whoda thunk it...he did better on him than anyone else has done this season .
Last edited by whottt; 05-08-2005 at 08:20 PM.
i think its fairly obvious that it was a mistake to replace hedo with barry
Yeah, Hedo sure was money in the playoffs last year.
yeah ice, but you kinda hate white people, so what you think is highly suspect.
I missed everything through the 9 minute mark of the third....my dog chewed up my pack of cigarettes. I had to beat his ass(kidding) and go get more cigs...
I saw Barry get 1 touch and pass to an open Bowen for a missed shot.
6:50: Manu in for Barry.
2:40 Barry in for Bowen.
Final 2:40: 3 touches. Got to the FT line once, turned it over once. Passed it to Beno who bobbled...not sure what happened after that but we didn't score I don't think.
Total for the third quarter: 4 touches, 1FTA, 1 TO, 1 pass to Beno, 1 pass to Bowen.
Last edited by whottt; 05-08-2005 at 09:46 PM.
4th quarter: 1 touch through the 9:53 mark, was covered, passed to Bowen, Bowen covered, passed to Duncan for score....
Pop needs to use Beno as more of the 2 guard like he did in the second quarter. Beno is not the only one playing sloppy but he is the sloppiest...he's playing laissez-faire, like he's playing his little brother or something.
9:07 1 touch for 3.
7:21: Manu in for Barry
5:55: Barry in for Manu
4:00: Manu in for Barry
2:00 Barry in for Manu. 1 touch, 1 3pa.
Total:3 touches, 2 3PA, 1 3PM, 1 pass that wound up in a score.
Last edited by whottt; 05-08-2005 at 10:18 PM.
Beno's at his best like the first half of the year when they had Barry running point and Beno playing the two.
I'm glad someone is watching Brent's touch-count while the rest of us watch the game.
You aren't being fair to your abilities Solid...you are also taking time out to make snide comments in a thread about a subject you seem to have no interest in, as well as watching the game.
Now run along and go play with the "rest of us", you collective fellow you.
Breakdown by quarter:
1st quarter: 2 touches
2nd quarter: 9 touches
3rd quarter: 4 touches
4th quarter: 3 touches
That second quarter was an abberation in which Barry probably touched the ball almost as much as he did any game total in the Denver series.
What they did in the second was partially due to chance, but it's something new that the Spurs started doing late in the 3rd and early in the 4th of game 5...letting Barry create a little more and using Beno as more of a shooter slasher...I like it. I hope it's something the Spurs continue to do as it is what I have been asking for all season.
But the touches in the other 3 quarters are more like what Barry usually gets when everyone is healthy....not much, the guys do not look for him.
I also wish Pop would not tell the Spurs to slow down the offense when the Spurs have clear break opportunities...there were 3 or 4 times Barry could have taken a pull up 3 or taken it to the basket, ahead of the rest of the team, but instead pulled up and waited to set up the offense...you want to know why he's different now from the player he was in Seattle...that's the difference.
Better late then never.
Good to see him play well today!
You're insane. Here's what Hedont couldn't hit when he was a Spur:
Brent's touch count? I think what's important here is how many dribbles he gets.
Oops, forgot the
He actually TOOK shots tonight.
He also drove to the basket, outside of the fast breaks.
He did what we have all WANTED him to do.
You're insane. Here's what Hedont couldn't hit when he was a Spur:
Favorite post of the night, right there.
you actually counted it live instead of enjoying the game
I coudl see it watchign it the second time
TPark...bull ...
#1.The only time he drives is when he is running the point. Take it up with Pop. And I can find a quote by him saying the Spurs don't want him play that way the rest of the time. When asked why he wasn't taking Boykins to the hole...he said "that's not what the Spurs do".
#2. You can't do when you aren't getting the ball....he got it tonight, but really it was only in one quarter and it was a change in the philosophy of the Spurs, not Barry. My guess is that it's because Pop got tired of watching Beno cause 6- 9 point swings at the ends of quarters.
So we are back to square one...It's on the Spurs to involve him more they want the player he was in Seattle.
If you try to turn him into Steve Kerr or Fred Hoiberg...you get a poor imitation of them because that's not what he is....then again, it took Kerr 5 years and a trade to become what the Spurs wanted....
[/QUOTE]#1.The only time he drives is when he is running the point. Take it up with Pop. And I can find a quote by him saying the Spurs don't want him play that way the rest of the time. When asked why he wasn't taking Boykins to the hole...he said "that's not what the Spurs do".
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blah blah blah.
You took that quote way the out of context.
Get the off the guy's nuts already.
barrysucker.
ducks...I thoroughly enjoyed this game...you guys act like it's brain surgery or something...All you gotta do is watch and remember and type it in during the commercials. S'not hard....then again, making a coherent sentence is hard for you, so I guess I can understand why you would think this is challenging.
On top of that...I always watch the game this way...I always analyze what the Spurs are trying to do on offense and defense.
yeah the spurs need to run plays for him
but they do not for big dog or other players other then duncan
poor baby can not create for himself
Watch many Spurs games? They run plays for Manu and Parker. They ran them somewhat for Hedo, and they definitely ran them for Jack. And Beno runs the point usually.
He's not supposed to create...the Spurs don't want him to do that really, they want him to camp out at three to keep a defender out of the paint, so Parker, Manu and Duncan can have more room in there to operate. That's why he passes the second a defender steps towards him.poor baby can not create for himself
Like I thought...Barry haters really don't understand the game very well...they hate a guy that is playing team basketball.
You should be a LeBron James fan ducks...all dunks and threes...you have no apprciation for any other aspect of the game.
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