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    if Louis ing Admunson and Derron mother ing Collins are on the floor, why can't Ian?????

    Ian could be Pop's card under the sleeve!!!

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    Because his bball iq rivals a goat?

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    Because his bball iq rivals a goat?
    still I refuse to beleive Admunson and Collins can bring more to the table than Ian

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    He could have been a Robin Lopez type, but that would have meant less time during the regular season for Manu at PF and Matt Bonner spreading the floor.

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    I'd give a years salary to see Ian play Bonner's minutes.

    No, I don't think Ian is some kind of All-Star... but Bonner might as well be playing for the other team. Seriously, you're crazy if you think otherwise. The guy is HORRID.

    It's obvious this team is still playing it's best basketball when our defense is leading the way. There's absolutely no need for Bonner, and it's not like he's been providing any offense anyway.

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    I'd give a years salary to see Ian play Bonner's minutes.

    No, I don't think Ian is some kind of All-Star... but Bonner might as well be playing for the other team. Seriously, you're crazy if you think otherwise. The guy is HORRID.

    It's obvious this team is still playing it's best basketball when our defense is leading the way. There's absolutely no need for Bonner, and it's not like he's been providing any offense anyway.
    but... but... Bonner spaces the floor

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    Because his bball iq rivals a goat?

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    mahinmi commits four fouls before he even reaches the scorer table.

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    mahinmi commits four fouls before he even reaches the scorer table.
    so what - boner gives up 4 shots before he reaches the floor

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    Because his bball iq rivals a goat?
    how do you know that - what makes you an expert fatty?

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    I'm pretty sure Bonner's BBIQ is bad. It took him two years to get the mechanics of the System down. If he can't hit a 3 he's fairly useless and emboldens the whoever is guarding him. Other than shooting I can't recall many (any?) great basketball plays by him. Has he ever made a really good pass?

    But he does spread the floor...the whole other team gets out of the way and gives him time to shoot because that's probably the easiest defensive play for them to make.

    I'm being sarcastic, sort of.

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    But he has been - no extension remember? So he is free to go anywhere he chooses or to another NBA if they invite him to training Camp.

    But with all the discussion on this board about Ian isn't it preety much settled that he fouls too much, has a low BBQ and is in Pop's doghouse? Noithing has changed and the only way to see him play in the post season will be in blowouts or, God forbid, injuries. But there is hope since I just remembered Ian getting in one of the games against the Mavs due to none of the above reasons. So maybe he does but don't expect significant minutes unless he performs a miracle.

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    I'm pretty sure Bonner's BBIQ is bad. It took him two years to get the mechanics of the System down. If he can't hit a 3 he's fairly useless and emboldens the whoever is guarding him. Other than shooting I can't recall many (any?) great basketball plays by him. Has he ever made a really good pass?

    But he does spread the floor...the whole other team gets out of the way and gives him time to shoot because that's probably the easiest defensive play for them to make.

    I'm being sarcastic, sort of.
    Sad in a sense about Bonner. A good guy who you wouldn't mind knocking a few beers down with but the pressure of the PO seem to cause him to meltdown. And when he doesn't hit those first 2 -3 shots he shuts down and disappears.


    In another thread many months ago regarding Bonner I remember a poster relate a story about 'Sheed when he was with the Pistons concerning Bonner. Another player asked him what play to run and 'Sheed told him to get the ball to whatever player Bonner was guarding. Talk about no respect!

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    Ian: very poor basketball IQ..very raw..commits a lot of stupid fouls and doesn't have name recognition with NBA refs, his main flaw..has trouble defending the post at times due to relatively skinny frame..gets lost at times..

    draws fouls at a high rate when he's on the court..athletic..mobile and good at hedging outside..alters shots at a good rate due to his tools..

    Bonner: below average basketball IQ..tries hard to defend, but physical tools don't allow him to be successful no matter what..has absolutely no ability to handle pressure and can no longer make 3-pointers at a decent rate..stops his dribble way too much once he's ran off the 3-point line, stalling the offense and putting the team in a bad position..horrible passer..

    makes decent defensive rotations..tries hard..has occasionally made 2-pointers in the playoffs so far..


    I'd give Bonner 2 more games tbh..if he doesn't produce, I'd give Ian some minutes..not only for production, but to see if Bonner responds to being benched..this is tricky though, because Bonner has confidence issues..something has to be done though, Bonner is just hurting the team..even his infamous +/- numbers have been relatively bad, which speaks volumes about Bonner..

    yes, there's a good chance Ian hurts the Spurs while he's on the floor, but there's not really any possible way he could be worse than Bonner tbh..a positive about Mahinmi is that having his size next to Blair for a few minutes is a lot better than the horrible Bonner-Blair frontcourt that provides NO lane intimidation at all..Mahinmi isn't a notable player, but a young and athletic 6'11 player is always intimidating in the lane..


    This Spurs team would be so dangerous if we had 1 more big instead of Bonner or a raw Mahinmi..where is Splitter when you need him..

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    Mahinmi will have a better year than Bonner, next year. None of them will be a Spur, but i am 100% sure that Bonner won´t be even near the level Mahinmi will show.

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    But Bonner has corporate knowledge, right?

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    Ian: very poor basketball IQ..very raw..commits a lot of stupid fouls and doesn't have name recognition with NBA refs, his main flaw..has trouble defending the post at times due to relatively skinny frame..gets lost at times..

    draws fouls at a high rate when he's on the court..athletic..mobile and good at hedging outside..alters shots at a good rate due to his tools..

    Bonner: below average basketball IQ..tries hard to defend, but physical tools don't allow him to be successful no matter what..has absolutely no ability to handle pressure and can no longer make 3-pointers at a decent rate..stops his dribble way too much once he's ran off the 3-point line, stalling the offense and putting the team in a bad position..horrible passer..

    makes decent defensive rotations..tries hard..has occasionally made 2-pointers in the playoffs so far..


    I'd give Bonner 2 more games tbh..if he doesn't produce, I'd give Ian some minutes..not only for production, but to see if Bonner responds to being benched..this is tricky though, because Bonner has confidence issues..something has to be done though, Bonner is just hurting the team..even his infamous +/- numbers have been relatively bad, which speaks volumes about Bonner..

    yes, there's a good chance Ian hurts the Spurs while he's on the floor, but there's not really any possible way he could be worse than Bonner tbh..a positive about Mahinmi is that having his size next to Blair for a few minutes is a lot better than the horrible Bonner-Blair frontcourt that provides NO lane intimidation at all..Mahinmi isn't a notable player, but a young and athletic 6'11 player is always intimidating in the lane..

    This Spurs team would be so dangerous if we had 1 more big instead of Bonner or a raw Mahinmi..where is Splitter when you need him..
    I know Pop has his rotations pretty set by now, but it's hard to understand why he would continue to dip into the Bonner playoff well, when it's so very obvious there is nothing there. After all, this isn't Bonner's first playoff flop. We all knew this was coming. As a result, the Spurs are not getting the 3-pt production that they did during the season, which is hurting the team. At this time of the season and with a limited rotation, it's very important that bench players provide consistent contribution. Unfortunately in Bonner's case, If he's not doing the one thing he does well, his presence on the court is counter-productive.

    Currently, Bonner is the first big off the bench. I'd much rather see give his minutes to Ian. In fact, it would probably make more sense for Pop to move up Blair in the rotation as the first big off the bench, than have Ian come in to replace Duncan at the end of quarters.

    Foul situation aside, having Ian on the court to in place of Bonner would at least ensure there is another rim-protector in the paint, who can rebound and get some putbacks while Duncan gets rest. As previously stated, Ian surely could do on worse than the non-producing Bonner. It's good to dream, but obviously, it will never happen.

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    The truth is, it's probably too late. I'd love to see him getting minutes in this series, but that would have required him getting minutes basically every between his performance against New Jersey and now. The refs and his teammates don't know him well enough for him to contribute in the playoffs, IMO. That said, he's probably got a better chance of helping the team win than Roger Mason does, and he's hardly any worse than a Matt Bonner that doesn't score any points.

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    Because his bball iq rivals a goat?
    Jealous?

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    When Bonner is on the floor the refs have to stop the game more frequently so the mop kids can clean up the drool from Amare.

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    yes, there's a good chance Ian hurts the Spurs while he's on the floor, but there's not really any possible way he could be worse than Bonner tbh..a positive about Mahinmi is that having his size next to Blair for a few minutes is a lot better than the horrible Bonner-Blair frontcourt that provides NO lane intimidation at all..Mahinmi isn't a notable player, but a young and athletic 6'11 player is always intimidating in the lane..
    Exactly... it kills the team. It waste any positives Blair can give.... and then he wants to throw Mason out there with that group every time to top it off.

    So frustrating.

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    Bonner will probably get benched and Ian will get a few minutes after we're down 0-3.

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    The thing about the Spurs three point game is the "if your open you shoot it or find yourself on the bench" mentality. I never liked this way of thinking, particularly with role players. This mentality has hurt Bonner's and Mason's game. Also, when they are not hitting, it transfers to the other players in two ways. One, it takes touches away from the other players, particularly the big three, and two, it has to be disheartening to their teammates when a guys missing and he's still jacking them up just because he's open.

    As far as his defense, I really don't fault Bonner. He tries hard, but he's just not physically equipped, and in the playoffs you've asked him to guard two of the best offensive bigs in Dirk and Amare. Also, these tough defensive assigments have to affect what little offensive game Bonner does have.

    I'd love to see Mahinmi get a chance to play along side Duncan to protect the rim, but you know it's not going to happen. If he did play and picked up quick fouls, so be it.

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    He can't be any worse than Bonner. He could probably hit a wide open 3, we will never know though.

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    soon he will be free...July is around the corner.

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