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I'm not ready to believe that they are. There's still an offseason to go and they can still make moves. If they come back next season with basically the same roster, then yeah.
Are the Spurs officially here yet?..they probably have been for over a year now, but I guess we can say it's official now, considering they spent so much money last Summer for a minimal reward..
What can the Spurs do about this?..they can't fully rebuild, because a team with Duncan/Parker/Ginobili and others will not be bad enough to miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick, unless there are some major injuries..
They can't win a le, because there is no longer a legit #1 option on this team..Duncan, Ginobili and Parker are all low-tier #2 or high-end #3 options at this point..you can't win in the NBA like that..
Are the Spurs going to continue being like the Malone/Stockton Jazz, where they don't rebuild and continue to pile up 1st round/2nd round exits?..did Ginobili's extension pretty much guarantee that the Spurs are going to be stuck in mediocrity until he and Timmy retire?..
I don't see the point TBH..
What is the realistic solution?..Do we have to accept the reality that the Spurs are going to be stuck here for a few more years?..Is there any chance at rebuilding right now?..Are the fans in favor of rebuilding?..
I'm not ready to believe that they are. There's still an offseason to go and they can still make moves. If they come back next season with basically the same roster, then yeah.
What kind of move would actually turn the Spurs back into a contending team though?..
Don't you think they would need to get a guy that can at least be a legit #2 option?..I don't really see how that's possible..
Jefferson is key though. I really think we need to find a way to deal him and his nasty contract in order to keep on going.
I haven't been on the ball with how the offseason looks like this year, so I can't give a good explanation.
a big to play down low with duncan, and a long 3 who can play defense and spread the floor
bonner, mason, rj, bogans needs to go seriously...
I have said more than likely the Spurs are screwed from a contender standpoint. Besides some very lucky or wild trade, they cannot be a contender for the next few years. They will slowly start to rebuild while remaining compe ive.
Then once Tim is done, the full rebuild will begin.
I think I can dream so I hope TP get a full summer of rest and then we'll see the 2009 Tony again. With that Tony I believe we can be a much better team.
Sign Tiago, trade Jefferson for a guy who can give us something and believe
I agree that the Spurs can make some moves that could make them a lot better than this year, but I don't think it's possible to win a le again with the current core, barring a Gasol-like collusion trade..unfortunately, only LA would get such a deal..
So I guess we have to accept that the Spurs are going to be a good team that isn't really a legit contender..
So much fail in this thread man, next year is going to be a great opportunity to go far in the playoffs and make a last push. Tony will (hopefully) be healthy all season, Ginobili has proven he still has all-star quality level left, and timmy (as ty as he was this season at times) is still VERY underappreciated for what he does.
If we get Splitter here and get jefferson to provide more, we look good. A trade or something to get some three point shooters would also help, and hopefully we can get a decent backup SF in the draft.
Calm the down
Developing our young players would make sense, Pop permitting.
trade Parker for a really good center. that's our only hope.
Splitter!
about half way through the season, i could tell the core was done. the ginobili extension didn't exactly thrill me. spurs will have to patiently wait for a good trade or start trading off players like ginobili. honestly, i think the spurs will need a legit low post presence. judging from the current trajectory, duncan can't be the legit low post offense the spurs have relied on for the last decade. duncan's decline robbed the spurs of a player of superstar level so until the spurs can get someone similar back, they will be a borderline playoff team.
and you give the keys of the car to who ? Hill ? he is a SG. Manu ? he will be older next year and can't run the point during a whole season IMO, he is better playing along side with TP.
If you trade parker it would be only for an elite PG.
TP has been the most reliable spurs during these 10 games
Yes. Unless the spurs land some superstar in the offseason, this team will be stuck at the 50 win mark, around the 4-8 seed until Duncan retires. There are FAs to be had, but no cap space to work with. There are a few contracts to toy around with, but I can see Holt gunshy about any future spending decisions. The spurs will be a good team until Duncan is gone, but I doubt they'll ever be great again during his tenure.
They need a big to back up Timmy
You go down swinging. Do what is within your power to put the best team you can out there for Tim's last years. If that means 1st and 2nd round playoff exits, so be it. But you definitely keep fighting.
There's reasons to believe we can still go all the way again if all the right pieces fall in place.. that's the problem in cheering for a fringe contender. You go in knowing that your heart will most likely be ripped out. Only choice is enjoy it, I guess. Every last second of the pain.
I'd rather take another chance with this core than start the re-build. Why is everyone seemingly looking forward to this? It's inevitable at some point and it's going to be a long, grueling slog, that almost certainly won't bear anything close to as much fruit as this core has.
Maybe they are done winning championships, but I'd rather have an outside chance at it than not have a chance at all. Unless the Spurs sink so low that they can get a true, legitimate franchise player, they have no chance at a championship in the future. What you'll get is a run of the mill young team with a limited upside, similar to the Hawks right now or a team like the Grizzlies. Sure, they look good on paper, but is that core ever going to be enough to even make a conference finals? Not likely.
If that mediocre reality is in the not so distant future anyway, why not take another chance with this core? And you're selling this core short. Maybe none are top tier first options anymore, but lower second tier? Get real. The Magic are one of three teams with a shot at a championship and they don't have a top tier first option.
As up and down as this team was, two-three quality, realistic moves and they put themselves in position to have a chance at contending again. And if they don't win another one? By then, the re-build will have commenced, whether they want it to or not.
You maybe right but there just is nothing other then TP that has trading value for the Spurs
and you give the keys of the car to who ? Hill ? he is a SG. Manu ? he will be older next year and can't run the point during a whole season IMO, he is better playing along side with TP.
If you trade parker it would be only for an elite PG.
TP has been the most reliable spurs during these 10 games
Trading a player does not mean allways that they suck. You have to give to get, and if the spurs want something quality TP is the only player with enough value to draw something.
A year older for the big 3 where they are shown to be quickly on the decline. Stand pat once again? Spurs have shown they are not even close to beimg contenders, no way a band aid move would put them on top once again.
I will say this: If Parker plays like 2009 again, if Manu can maintain his level of play and stay relatively injury free, if Tim can get some help down low, and a lot of it, while our young guns keep growing and getting better, there's still a lot of reasons to believe. We have to make some adjustments, though.
Good post.
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