2010 Free Agent: Chris Bosh

[Bruno]

Born: Mar 24, 1984
Height: 6-10 / 2.08
Weight: 230 lbs. / 104.3 kg.
College: Georgia Tech
Years Pro: 6

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$17.1M PO

[FeZZy]

Sign-and-Trade for Jefferson, Tiago's rights and 1st rounder should do the trick

[FeZZy]

If that's all it takes then I am all for it. More than likely the Spurs will likely have to throw in Parker and take on Hedo's contract. Then maybe the Spurs can make a case to switch first round picks.

So would you do it for Parker?

[Mr. Body]

I might trade Parker for Bosh. Don't think Toronto does, though.

[SpursTillTheEnd]

No not if it involves hedo, hedo sucks

[SenorSpur]

If Toronto wanted Parker THAT would be a deal-breaker for me. However, the scenario that FeZZy originally proposed would be good. Even if the Spurs CAN do this, My concern would still be the absence of a youngm athletic, SF. They NEED to target one in this draft. Therefore, if they're going to offer up a 1st round pick, as part of a Bosh package, it should be for 2012.

[coyotes_geek]

Love Tony, but point guards are easier to find than bigs. If Parker gets Bosh, I pull the trigger.

[HarlemHeat37]

Raptors can get a much better deal than the Spurs can give them..they will receive picks and assets for giving up Bosh, even while adding Turkoglu's contract IMO..

[coyotes_geek]

Raptors can get a much better deal than the Spurs can give them..they will receive picks and assets for giving up Bosh, even while adding Turkoglu's contract IMO..

Depends where Bosh wants to go. Toronto only has leverage in an S&T deal if Bosh decides he wants to play for a team over the salary cap. Potentially Toronto may not be able to get anything more than a 2nd round draft pick and a fat trade exception.

[SpursTillTheEnd]

@Phila damn thats some interesting stuff, who would be the other players rights, so that means hedo wouldn't be on the spurs be we would get derozan? if that's the case we need to do that

[FeZZy]

Well here is my thinking: in order to get Bosh in a sign and trade the recieving team needs to A) give Toronto a good player in return (that's where TP comes in) and B) most likely take on Hedo and his contract. With that said the Spurs would have to throw in Jefferson. I think this is a wash trade, so now the Spurs need to do something else because Hedo has a 15% trade kicker. So it is likely the Spurs will have to throw in Antonio McDyess to make things workout. I don't have the numbers in front of me, and I am on my phone but let me break it down.

Bosh+filler?? For RJ and Splitter (+maybe a first rounder?)= in
the spurs favor. Bosh can step in and become the franchise player and make RJ's big contract of some use. Tiago won't be as good as Bosh, RJ is getting older and more expensive. Bosh is young and wants to win.

Now the above trade is not likely in my opinion because Hedo's contract really screws over that salary cap space Toronto wants, so I think Hedo is the key. Maybe get a third team in or take Hedo in order to get Bosh. This is where thongs get interesting. A Bosh/Hedo for TP/RJ actually seems to be in favor of Toronto. So the Spurs might have to swap first round picks (20 for 13) and maybe make a push for Demar DeRozan and if Demar is included I can see the Spurs giving up both Splitter and another players rights. Then they'll go after maybe Scola for the MLE.

This.

[EricB]

I'd put the percentages at Bosh playing in SA at about 0.0000001%

[EricB]

Theres no way in the Spurs take on Hedo's contract...

[kobyz]

it have to involve a third team for a deal to make sense, cause if Toronto will take Parker they need a team to take Calderon, they will not keep Calderon and his big long contract when they have Parker, the Spurs can't take Calderon cause the selaries won't work.
meybe this:
Spurs: Bosh, Hedo, T.J. Ford
Raptors: Parker, McDyess, Dunleavy
Pacers: Calderon, Jefferson

[Bruno]

Spurs could offer very attractive packages to Raptors if they want Bosh IMO, the two packages that makes the most senses are:
- Jefferson + McDyess + Splitter for Turkoglu + Bosh
- Parker + McDyess + Splitter for Calderon + Bosh

Some fillers (Hairston, Jerrells, Gee or Temple) should be added to match salaries but both trade works salary wise. Spurs can also add a future first round pick if it isn't enough.

However, there are two big question marks.
First, are Spurs ready to take that much salaries?
Second, does Bosh want to play in SA?

[venitian navigator]

I see difficult that the spurs take Hedo contract.
I don't see a lot of offers coming from different teams better than RJ + Splitter's rights.
For example, it's debatable that Deng is a better package than RJ + Splitter's rights (if Splitter decide to come in NBA)...Deng has been injury prone for years and so is considered a a very "risky" player with a "large" contract.
Calderon is the kind of play maker that RJ needs for maximize his qualities, so I don't see him traded is some package for RJ (in fact Bruno made his two trade proposals considering that in both the due of Calderon + RJ plays together).

Splitter has been one of the best, if not the best, European center for the last two years...his value, imho, is very high in a market with no good centers available.
For the Raptors, on paper, he is and ideal complement (sure better than Bosh) for both their real Power Forwards (Bargnani and Turk).


However, hope spurs learned from the consequences of the Scola trade...never, ever, undervalue your trade assets. Splitter is not a project anymore...ha was 6 years ago, when he was projected to be a lottery pick. Now he's a still young player that has already exceded expectations with his european playing. he could be a top ten center in nba already in his first year in the league, and maybe higher (considering Shaq and Ilga are one year older and Ming comes from a bad injury).

[EricB]

I just don't think Bosh is all that great to giving up all those players for him...

[Brox6]

Asking too much...very risky for the Spurs

[DBMethos]

Would Bosh even want to come to SA? Sure it's in Texas, but I doubt he'd buy into Pop's defensive philosophy (if indeed there still is one). Dallas or Houston seem like a much better fit for him.

[DBMethos]

My mistake then, since I haven't watched Bosh much I went on public perception. Good to see that he does actually play some D.

[scottspurs]

Bosh is talking a big game about not wanting to play second fiddle. He will not join Tim Duncan young or old if that's the case.

[yavozerb]

The Spurs wanted Bosh as their 2010 player, making him their number 1 option. So Bosh as the franchise player with the second and third options being Manu and Duncan. That's pretty good I'd say.

One can dream of a frontcourt of TD,Bosh,Splitter,Blair,Mcdyess.. why not start Bosh at the 3, TD at the 4, and Splitter at the 5.

[Mr Bones]

It would be nice, but I have to look at it from Bosh's perspective: he's a star entering his prime and is on the verge of signing the most lucrative contract of his career... does he go to an aging team like the Spurs, or does he go to a strong, emerging team where he can team up with another young star and hope to compete for championships for the next 6-7 years? I don't know what his loyalties to his home state of Texas are, or if that's a consideration, but going to the Spurs doesn't seem like it'd necessarily be the best long term decision for him. Teaming up with D Wade, LeBron, or Durant.... well, that's what I'd do in his position.

[beachwood]

It would be nice, but I have to look at it from Bosh's perspective: he's a star entering his prime and is on the verge of signing the most lucrative contract of his career... does he go to an aging team like the Spurs, or does he go to a strong, emerging team where he can team up with another young star and hope to compete for championships for the next 6-7 years? I don't know what his loyalties to his home state of Texas are, or if that's a consideration, but going to the Spurs doesn't seem like it'd necessarily be the best long term decision for him. Teaming up with D Wade, LeBron, or Durant.... well, that's what I'd do in his position.

Bosh would always be 2nd fiddle if he teams up with Wade, LBJ or Durant. If he comes to SA, I believe he'd be our #1 guy if not in year 1 then definitely year 2.

[HarlemHeat37]

Bosh is a decent defender, I wouldn't call him good by any means..I don't think he has the mentality to ever be a standout defender..

Coming from somebody that has lived in TO for a little less than half my life and still follows them closely, I've soured on Bosh..he's a very good player, top 15 and would be a great #2 guy, but he's mentally weak and overly sensitive..I can't remember seeing a star react like he does..constantly complaining about fan reactions in the arena, complaining about not getting enough media attention, complaining about criticism he has received..he does it so often, most fans in TO have become annoyed by him..he's a gaping pussy..