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Shelve that stale Nash vs. Shaq MVP debate. Here's today's much fresher, fiercer debate:
Wade vs. Ginobili: Who would win a 1-on-1 game between them?
Put it on summer pay-per-view, because it's the most entertaining "mano y Manu" matchup across any NBA pairing.
Look at last night:
Wade put together one of the greatest all-around individual games in NBA playoff history (only four others have had 30-15-5 games).
Ginobili was no slouch: 28 points (9/11 FG) and 4 assists, and that was off the bench.
Both slither to the rim. Both make slick passes. Both rebound well for their position. Both would rather drain weird-looking long 2s than jack 3s.
Both are deceptively fast and even more deceptive hops, two key ingredients to any telegenic and closer-than-you-think 1-on-1 battle.
Starting a team? Wade is the pick, easily (which he would be over all but a handful of players in the league right now).
But 1-on-1? Toss-up.
Curious, interesting matchup indeed. The quote "and that was off the bench" has its dramatic effect, however, a more realistic remark there would be "and that was in his usual 30 minutes of playing time".
The 1-on-1 matchup would probably need a ref. Wade is the more physical player.
In a short game it would be a toss up, but the longer the game the more advantage Wade would have. They should have 1-1s in the Allstars
Wade is the better player with the brighter long-term future, but Ginobili's basketball IQ is through the roof. He's a winner and turns scary-good in clutch situations, on both sides of the court. It's not like he's on a hot streak right now - he's playing well because it's the playoffs.
No S!HT!!!!!!
Those games would be more fun to watch than the Slamdunk compe ion!!!!!
^^^ no , stern wont let it happen, cose his cronnies wont be able to dictate the game
Wade is probably playing like the #1 guard in the league right now--but Manu isn't far behind.
But on a one-on-one contest with a referee, Wade might be in trouble because of Manu's unorthodox lefty moves that make him so hard to defend. God, it must be a nightmare to defend that guy.
1 on 1 would never happen - too great a chance that somebody's fragile ego gets damaged when they get posterized or ankles broken. It would be more realistic to see a 2-on-2 or 3-on-3 tournament.
seriously, who wouldn't want to see
Parker, Ginobili, Duncan
vs
Nash, Johnson, Stoudamire; or Arenas, Hughes, Jamison?
they already have those gay 3-3s. oh well, I guess we'll just see 1-1 on playstation
Of course Wade is better. He is simply the more gifted athlete and is a more gifted 1 on 1 scorer. Wade is also pretty solid at every aspect of the game except three point shooting and maybe 1 on 1 containment defense.
You know I have been thinking about this. I believe Manu is better off the bench. Manu is like NOS for the Spurs. When you are in a race or in this case a race for the rings. You don't show your opponent what's under the hood, until later. It is more physcological , then when you expose your opponents weakness you bring out the NOS(Manu) to finish off and win the race. MANU=NOS. GO SPURS GO!!!!!!!
i love manu, but realistically wade would win in a 1-on-1
How about Wade vs. Arenas? that would be a great matchup. I think Arenas might even win 'cause he's more of a street baller.
I have to disagree. In a longer game, the post up becomes more of a weapon. That clearly favors the 6'6" Ginobili over the 6'4" Wade. There is also no way that Wade keeps Manu from going all the way to the rack, and Manu showed last night that even if you get by him, he can swat the shot. He's also a far better long distance shooter, meaning Wade would have to come out on him, whereas he could play off Wade to protect against the drive.In a short game it would be a toss up, but the longer the game the more advantage Wade would have.
I think it should be 2 on 2.
TP and Manu against Jones and Wade.
3 on 3?
Add TD and Shaq.
Now those would be awesome.
The good news is we might see these two going at it in another month.
The ratings would be through the roof.
Apples and oranges. Wade is a PG/SG while Manu is a SG/SF. Wade is slightly quicker but Manu has the size.
Manu has a better shot and is a better defender but Wade has the quickness and slightly better athleticism.
Don't know who would win...really doesn't matter unless the le is determined by one on one matchups but that would be damn fun to watch and I would pay to see it.
ESPN.
detroit may beat miami...we may not see the matchup
Outside of Amare Stoudamire, are there any two hotter players in the playoffs right now? Those three do it at both ends of the court, which sets them apart from Ray Allen, Steve Nash, etc.
How about Ben Wallace? He has become an offensive weapon for Detroit.
BTW Manu will win
Manu would own him...I don't know why everyone automatically assumes Wade is a better athlete...Manu is a superb athlete, he's a better defender, and he's a better shooter...
Wade may indeed be the better passer...that means exactly squat in a game of one on one.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Wade on the wrong end of a Manu asskicking this past summer?
Wade could have made his statement then....Manu made his.
Yeah right. Wade is the better athlete.
He is stronger and can create his own shot off the dribble consistently.
If Manu could hit shots off the dribble under solid pressure, consistently then he would be the closest player to being Wade. But thats the biggest difference between them.
Manu has a better long range shot and uses a little more energy on D. I would actually say that Manu is a better passer, but NOT a better creator of offense.
Wade gets a lot of assists because he has the ball a lot, and is more of a threat to make plays. His passing is no more impressive than Manu's (even though Manu throws some pretty ty passes at times).
Wade is obviously the better player and talent. But if Manu could hit the jumper off the dribble 2-3 times a game, or in the clutch -- he would be pretty close.
Last edited by Nikos; 05-11-2005 at 12:58 PM.
Wade is a freak athletically Whottt, Manu is good, but not extraordinary by NBA standards, while Wade is.
1 on 1 would be close, don't discount the fact that Manu is left handed and a better shooter, if they played 5 games I think Manu would definitly win 1 and probably 2 or he could even win the majority. Would be a close call.
Wade is more important to the Heat's success than Shaq is. Tough to say if LeBron or Wade will go down as the best player from the class of 2003.
Shaq isn't looking so hot these days. I'll be surprised if the Heat get past Detroit.
One on one? Who cares? In the finals? Rather face the Heat and I'll take Manu and the Spurs.
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