To all you atheists out there.

[D2Procon]

How do you believe in something that isn't proven yet? How do you say that something came out of nothing and decided to out humans and apes?

[Dr. Gonzo]

Religious Debate Thread!!!

[Drachen]

How do you believe in something that isn't proven yet? How do you say that something came out of nothing and decided to out humans and apes?

This is the funny catch 22 part of any religion v. atheism debate; These questions can be asked by both sides, to both sides. You are not clever by asking these questions.

[D2Procon]

This is the funny catch 22 part of any religion v. atheism debate; These questions can be asked by both sides, to both sides. You are not clever by asking these questions.

No but it makes sense to say that something comes out of something than to say something came out of nothing.

[Drachen]

ok, let me ask you the exact same questions, but from the other side:
How do you believe in something that isn't proven yet? How do you say that something came out of nothing and decided to out a God?

[DarkReign]

No but it makes sense to say that something comes out of something than to say something came out of nothing.

...and if its proven that aliens have been visitin Earth for millenia, would you reconsider your position?

I doubt it.

BTW, Big Bang Theory does not say "something from nothing". A more apt description would be "everything from everything condensed".

[D2Procon]

ok, let me ask you the exact same questions, but from the other side:
How do you believe in something that isn't proven yet? How do you say that something came out of nothing and decided to out a God?

You know what you can keep saying that something shat out something that shat out something that shat out something that shat out god. Keep going up the stairs. The fact is there is something someone who has control over everything. That makes more sense then to say NOTHING came out of something. By saying there is something that led to god etc you believe that there was an external influence a diety of some sort.

[peteee]

ok, let me ask you the exact same questions, but from the other side:
How do you believe in something that isn't proven yet? How do you say that something came out of nothing and decided to out a God?

out a God...

[D2Procon]

...and if its proven that aliens have been visitin Earth for millenia, would you reconsider your position?

I doubt it.

BTW, Big Bang Theory does not say "something from nothing". A more apt description would be "everything from everything condensed".

no doubt, but something must have led to the condensation. The fact that condensation happened at some a particular time frame means something influenced it. Why did the big bang happen say at one point but didn't happen 1000 time units further?

[baseline bum]

Quite a compelling argument you out.

[MannyIsGod]

This is the funny catch 22 part of any religion v. atheism debate; These questions can be asked by both sides, to both sides. You are not clever by asking these questions.

Its not a Catch 22. You never need to prove that nothing is there - the burden of proof lies on those who say something is there.

[peteee]

You know what you can keep saying that something shat out something that shat out something that shat out something that shat out god. Keep going up the stairs. The fact is there is something someone who has control over everything. That makes more sense then to say NOTHING came out of something. By saying there is something that led to god etc you believe that there was an external influence a diety of some sort.

Although I execrate that re 's dumbness, I can't disagree on his proposition that doubts God's existence. God is inactive anyway, even if he really exists somewhere we can't see. God is fair and won't allow any ty livings in his world but such s are everywhere in this world, which pretty much stokes his statement. And if the God is fair enough, he should have given him a good brain that may help expatiate his opinions. I have to give special appreciations for most of his announcements, especially like the one about terrorists, which could be translated as "America just needs less troops then there will be less people getting mad enough at us to become terrorists". Sorry but it's really too hard for me here to depict the exact dumb style of his.

[baseline bum]

Its not a Catch 22. You never need to prove that nothing is there - the burden of proof lies on those who say something is there.

[D2Procon]

Although I execrate that re 's dumbness, I can't disagree on his proposition that doubts God's existence. God is inactive anyway, even if he really exists somewhere we can't see. God is fair and won't allow any ty livings in his world but such s are everywhere in this world, which pretty much stokes his statement. And if the God is fair enough, he should have given him a good brain that may help expatiate his opinions. I have to give special appreciations for most of his announcements, especially like the one about terrorists, which could be translated as "America just needs less troops then there will be less people getting mad enough at us to become terrorists". Sorry but it's really too hard for me here to depict the exact dumb style of his.

Because theres something called Paradise and . No point in having paradise and if everyone on earth were equal.

[D2Procon]

Its not a Catch 22. You never need to prove that nothing is there - the burden of proof lies on those who say something is there.

But you can't prove the existence of god because it's not meant to be proven. It's one of the reasons why there's paradise and . God is super natural meaning law of physics and other laws do not apply to him so it would be impossible to prove him. You use natural laws for natural things not for supernatural.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if ur sayin humans came from apes, then how come todays apes cant talk like humans even though they share the same characteristics as humans...

[boutons_deux]

"The fact is there is something someone who has control over everything"

"How do you believe in something that isn't proven yet?"

Religious s are brain-damaged as well as emotionally damaged, intentionally championing their opinions as proven facts.

[fraga]

if ur sayin humans came from apes, then how come todays apes cant talk like humans even though they share the same characteristics as humans...

Because we're SUPER APES....duh...

[D2Procon]

"The fact is there is something someone who has control over everything"

"How do you believe in something that isn't proven yet?"
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Right back at you, how can you believe in the big bang theory just magically appearing when it hasn't been proved yet?

[D2Procon]

BTW what if you guys all die and find out that there was a god afterall, you guys would be screwed wouldn't you? So why not believe in god so that when you die its a win win situation?

[XFactor]

BTW what if you guys all die and find out that there was a god afterall, you guys would be screwed wouldn't you? So why not believe in god so that when you die its a win win situation?

Pascal's Wager.

[MannyIsGod]

But you can't prove the existence of god because it's not meant to be proven. It's one of the reasons why there's paradise and . God is super natural meaning law of physics and other laws do not apply to him so it would be impossible to prove him. You use natural laws for natural things not for supernatural.

Good for you. That doesn't fly when it comes to science. Enjoy your paradise.

[Shastafarian]

I get it now. He's someone's troll. Well done. I wasn't sure when you bombed that thread with stern pictures, basically asking to be banned. It didn't matter cuz you're a troll. The question is, whose troll are you?

[baseline bum]

BTW what if you guys all die and find out that there was a god afterall, you guys would be screwed wouldn't you? So why not believe in god so that when you die its a win win situation?

What if you pick the wrong god, and the real god is mad as at you for following his enemy? In that case, you'd be much better off as the atheist.

[baseline bum]

The burden of poof is not on an atheist to prove something is out there. A theory is not fact, nor law, and they often change. Physics will eventually provide us the answers we need to know. The demise of religion, and a mystery God is inevitable.

I don't think physics will ever provide the answers. Every new answer opens up tons of new questions.