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Yes, it's just you. Sorry, man. I'm not trying to be a but that flop reminded me of Vlade. I'm not hating on Manu, either; he was just trying to get a call.
In order, apparently, to show that he is, indeed, a flopper, ESPN keeps showing that clip of Manu getting hit by AD and I can swear that I see his nose move when AD smacks him. The fact that he took a second to react is because they showed it in slow motion. The dude has a big enough nose that you can see the contact.
They called the foul on him anyway, so why is that clip indicative of anything?
Yes, it's just you. Sorry, man. I'm not trying to be a but that flop reminded me of Vlade. I'm not hating on Manu, either; he was just trying to get a call.
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It looked to me that he thought he was bleeding when he was on the ground. Did he just act at (even though no one could really see that, unless the camera was zoomed in)?
He checked the floor when he was on the ground.
I didn't see him bleed. I did see a delay betwen him getting "elbowed" and him falling to the floor and writhing in "pain." Sorry, Playa. I sees what I sees.
Sorry, but yeah...it's you.
That was a flop.
Even the reaction/timing was off.
Reggie would've been proud of that flop or even Tinsley, like that one he drew on Pierce last week.
a clippers fan is giving us his professional opinion, but I saw the elbow make contact, but gino made it look worse than it was, because when he found out the foul was on him, he was all better.
he got elbowed, you're blind if you didn't see it.
Yes, I'm a Clippers fan. Which actually makes my opinion on this all the more valid; I don't have a dog in this fight.
now we know you're a liar, because there is no such thing as a clippers fan.
Been one since the day I was born. LH4L.
I don't think you are a . I asked for opinions, and I'm glad you responded. It's not going to change what I think.
To me, watching it at game speed it doesn't look like a flop at all, and nobody upon nobody thought it was a flop when it happened. The whistle had nothing to do with Manu going down, but it was late. Since he comically threw his head back and there's a delay in the super slow motion video Brent Musburger of course had a bunch of to say about it. "It's much softer when you flop in soccer."
If you watch it on PVR and pause it, like I'm doing right now, it looks like AD got him across the bridge of the nose with his elbow. If you get hit in the nose you are going to flinch from the impact.
Once again, I'm not saying it was a foul, I just don't think it was a flop.
I happened to tape the game and when I went back AD did elbow him in the face before he fell to the ground. It looked like a blow to his mouth. He got right back up and played but during the last time out after he missed the crucial free throwthey showed him messing with his teeth .
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Well, it's nice to run into someone who isn't so ing biased that he can't accept another opinion.
I took a long break from message boards for that reason alone... Got sick of arguing with people who wouldn't admit they might be wrong if the right answer bit them in the ass.
As an aside, I see more partisanship on sports boards than I do on political boards. But I digress...
I've already said I do not like the Spurs but I don't think I'm so consumed by hatred that I can't call it how I see it. And I saw a flop. Guess what? Maybe I'm wrong. I say "TO-MAY-TO," you say "TO-MAH-TO," I guess....
If you ask for someone's opinion and then rip on them for it, that's damn near as bad as trolling in my book.
Manu flails a lot but I don't see him really reacting to absolutely no contact like Vlade used to, but I have to admit that I'm sitting here on the couch typing this in a Spurs 20 jersey. You can tell he grew up in a soccer playing country, though. It's hard to get used to the flailing, but he does it when he gets clobbered too so maybe it's just how he is. There isn't any questioning his toughness, so it pisses me off that ESPN shows that same play over and over and over and over like he's just some soccer playing pussy that falls down when you fart on him just to get a call.
So my question is, if Manu went down because of a hit to the face, why did his feet go flying back like he was tripped, and why did his body twist in the air like he was bumped, even though neither Sonics player was particularly close when he went down? He may have gotten hit, but he got caught trying to sell the flop too many ways too obviously. He tried to act like he was tripped, then he twisted his body like he was bumped and finally he held his face while laying on the floor. Until he found out he didn't get the call that is, then he hopped up and seemed to forget about his battered face. Unless he got hit so hard he had a midair seizure, that was a pretty obvious flop.
I've got a good buddy from Pittsburgh who played against Manu several times as a pro in Italy. He said that Manu was well-known throughout the league as a flopper. Hey, doesn't mean he should change or you should love him any less. Its actually smart play!
He got hit in the mouth. When he got up you could see blood from the upper left side of his mouth. Either his gum and/or the inside of his lip was bleeding. I saw the blood, and that is why he looked around. It was no flop.
AD hit him in the mouth.
The problem is Musberger and the other dumb s were looking for a Jerome James elbow.
When they showed a close up of his face, it looked like his teeeth where a little blood-stained.
But Manu has to be careful with the over reacting. If idiots, such as the ESPN comentators, start pounding on the subject of his flopping, soon it will be vox populi.
He got hit in the face by AD's hand, I saw it live and I saw it on replay.
Manu the flopper
Bruce the dirty
The media is painting our players with some pretty nasty brushes. And in this dumbed-down country, for lack of any critical faculties and ability to observe and think, the sheep pick it up and bleet it as "reality".
He got hit on the nose. But it didn't merit the way he fell down like he had just been hit a bulldoser.
Well he's argentine, where futbol is the main sport. In futbol flopping is part of the game, and the Argentines are experts at it, it's in his blood. But everyone else does it too.
That ing commentator shouldn't have said those comments though, there's alot of floppers in the league from Iverson to Miller. Plus nobody receives more real punishment than Manu, that is obvious.
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