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Ask Eva about the love and IceColdBrewski about the hate.
Hi there !
I'm the webmaster of TonyParkerBlog.com , unofficial french TP's blog. I've been very surprised of one thing : on french basketball forums, lots of basketball fans can't stand TP. For several reasons, but that's not the subject here.
I'd like to make a study on the way / the reasons why TP is loved or hated and the differences between France and the US. I think it can be interesting...
So I posted topics on several french basketball forums and spursreport.com forums is one of the US forums I've selected.
Please tell me if you love, hate, do not have opinion on Tony and why.
I'm not only speaking about his game or his personnality, but about the whole Tony
(please scuse me for my poor english, I really suck : )
Thanks for your help.
ps : I have another question... do you know a huge general basketball forum. This one is about Spurs and should be full of Spurs fans... I'm looking for an US general basketball forums with lots of basketball fans, not only Spurs fans. If you have suggestions, please send me a PM
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Ask Eva about the love and IceColdBrewski about the hate.
There's no article about that subject. That's the reasons why I'm making a study
It seems they think he's pretentious, selfish... especially after the defeat of national French team in European Championship 2 years ago. Some players didn't seem to be 100% in the game, and Tony criticized them in the media after the game.
There are lots of reasons, but that's not the subject here. I'd just like to have your opinion, coming from the US
it isn't articles, journalists love TP but in the french forums we can see TP haters (jalousy)
It may be also because journalists love TP too much that some french basketball fans hate TP
insidehoops.comI have another question... do you know a huge general basketball forum. This one is about Spurs and should be full of Spurs fans... I'm looking for an US general basketball forums with lots of basketball fans, not only Spurs fans. If you have suggestions, please send me a PM
basketballboards.net
thx
Don't take this the wrong way but...
I would think a Tony Parker site would be more concerned with the positive aspects of fan support towards Tony.
I'm not really seeing where you're going with this whole love/hate thing unless it's some bent to make Americans more cynical than the French.
Can't you just celebrate his good performances and leave it at that?
C'est vrai! Une vue saine. (That's right. A sound viewpoint)It may be also because journalists love TP too much that some french basketball fans hate TP
The same thing (la meme chose) can be seen here among fans of a particular team. The more attention a player from an opposing team receives, the more he is despised by the fans of other teams. We may intellectually accept the dominance of Shaq, but our gut instinct is to hate him - even though he is a graduate of a San Antonio high school. Even though we may accept the fact that he is a "native son," the fact that he doesn't play for the SA Spurs damns him in the eyes of Spurs fans.
So, although we San Antonians love TP (I, for one, absolutely adore everything about his game), it's only natural that many French citizens see him as no longer the hometown idol. If he were still playing in France, he'd be idolized, n'est pas?
Ici, en les Etats Unis - San Antonio - le sentiment: "En voila un qui fera son chemin!" (Here, in the United States - San Antonio - the sentiment is: "That kid will go far!"
By the way, doesn't Tony turn 23 today? Or is the 18th?
Merci pour le question! Bon chance!
17th.By the way, doesn't Tony turn 23 today? Or is the 18th?
Thanks, Kori!
Makes me look like a real Tony Parker fan, eh? Well, I was in the right church - only the pew was wrong. LOL!
Well imo, Tony deserves more respect for his game in SA and more respect for what he's doing in the NBA. People from SA enjoys his way of playing, follow his performances week after week. Lots of people from France doesn't know anything about bball and just stick with Tony cause is playing "good" in the NBA and because he's fashionable. A good "product" to sell in France. In Texas you see the player, in France we have, mostly, to deal with his "product" image.
So, as a player, people from US are more objective and like/hate him for his play on the court more than for his last gf or if he does look sexy...
I would not be suprised if the people that don't like Tony are also some of the Bush bashers...
I really know very little, if anything, about Tony Parker's personality, so I really cannot make a valid judgment of him. His image is fine enough to me. I did hear that he was "bashful" if not rude at Malik's restaurant grand opening in San Antonio by beelining to the back of the restaurant to avoid contact with fans, presumably. Meanwhile, Malik, David Robinson and other players had big smiles on their faces and mingled with the fans.
As long as Tony Parker continues to improve I have no problem with him. I would certainly say that Parker appears much less fan-friendly than, say, Manu Ginobili. But Manu is rare.
Manu's personality looks better to me too... I mean he seems more fan-friendly at least...
Tony's personality may be much more enjoyable in the locker room.
But Manu's a little bit older so may had something to do too...
tp may not be as comfortable talking in english and fans in the past might have made fun of his trouble speaking in english
I do not know I do not know tp
If a person let's public opinion shape what and how they do... they are not very much of a special person. Tony is a good guy that enjoy's life. Hopefully he an anyone else won't care much what negative people say about him.
manu may be more outgoing and tp may be more quiet tell he knows you
but either of those traits do not make you better then the other person
Tony "You know" Parker.
He does that 1 time a sentence.
Even me i dont use this that often, you know?
Vashner, that's cool that you evidently know Tony Parker so well. How long have you guys been buddies?
Tony Parker is a ballhog.
Sincerely,
Argentina
I like Parker a lot, he's a great PG for the Spurs.
Who cares? Manu has an accent as well, and neither of them grew up in the US. I don't think anyone dislikes them for their pronuciation and english speaking skills, I mean, they are professional basketball players. Being a pro athlete doesn't require talking at all.tp may not be as comfortable talking in english and fans in the past might have made fun of his trouble speaking in english
I don't really know where people are getting this hate for TP, after all, he isn't the one being attacked by every opponent on purpose (k-mart,melo,jerome james,george karl, etc.).
Your english is great!(please scuse me for my poor english, I really suck : )
for the record tp passed to manu for an assist last game
There will always be haters
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