oh i hope anderson does something when we see him in a spurs uniform cuz damion james is ballin right now with the nets, he is playing great d, he has a good shot, and hes grabbing rebounds.... some of yall are gonna say its just summer league so it dont mean nothing but hill shined in summer league and look at him now, when will we see anderson play a game?
Actually, didn't Hill literally stink it up in Summer League play? I'm not just talking about playing poorly, but playing so bad that EVERYONE was second-guessing the pick over Chalmers and CDR even more than they were on draft night? Am I remembering this whole thing wrong?
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ok i take this post back james just got balled on .......
idk i didn't watch any game but i watched highlights and hill was ballin
Hill did poorly in his first summer league, and there have been quite a few summer league wonders who did nothing in the regular season.
Oh ... summer league started already?!
this is what i was talking about hill was ballin look to me like he did very good
So you start a thread pimping a player only to 5 minutes later, call yourself wrong.
shut up homie i got ahead of myself happens
You seem to always be ahead of yourself. Riding that roller-coaster of life.
No, I wasn't remembering it wrong. Hill had a HISTORICALLY bad summer league that I'm sure he would wish that nobody ever reminded him of.
In 3 games - he averaged 31.7 minutes per game, averaged 8 PPG, shot 2-25 (.080%), 1-6 from 3 pt. range, grabbed 7 RPG, dished out 3 dimes per, had 1 steal and no blocks. He also averaged 4.66 fouls per game.
To be honest, you mentioning George Hill when speaking of the validity of play in the Summer League disproved your whole argument. Damion James may end up being a great player, but I personally wouldn't put too much stock in his stats during Summer League.
James is a joke
That was last year, not the year he got drafted.
Actually, Hill played well but he didn't shoot well. Many people seemed to forget that he was at the top of the nation in scoring and thought it was some indication that he'd suddenly forgotten how to shoot. Hill was able to get to the rim, handled the ball and defended well.
Snap, Crackle. Pop.......
Hill was like 1-23 or something.
Hill rebounded well, but that was about it. He looked very uncomfortable out there and I remember many people using your argument of being at the top of the nation in scoring only to be ridiculed with the opposition stating that he did so playing at a small school against inferior talent (and then to further use his poor play in the Summer League to back up their arguments). Honestly though, shooting 2-25 against Summer League players is much worse than "he didn't shoot well". He was HORRIBLE. Don't get me wrong though, because I am glad that he overcame that horrendous showing and display that the Spurs' FO knew what they were doing when they drafted the player from IUPUI. He is now one of my favorite players in the league.
Anderson needs to get well first. Doesn't he have a pulled hamstring or something?
I thought Anderson was not even playing in SL
He likely won't, but the last actual report that I saw was McDonald stating that he was "iffy" due to hamstring issues.
You say you're a huge Spurs fan and you have no idea what George did in his first Summer League. 2008 was George Hill's first Summer League and he was horrible, maybe one of the worst performing players there. 2009 was his second time there and he was a lot better, maybe the best player there for that one. Either way SL isn't the best indicator of how someone will do in the NBA as George was better in his first NBA game that he was in any SL game.shut up homie i got ahead of myself happens
I remember reading stories that Duncan got schooled on once in summer league.... although Pop asked him to play left-handed
This is what you all are talking about.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...-of-tim-duncanIt has been the best line of summer league. Maurice Cheeks has used it. P.J. Carlesimo has used it. Every journalist here, practically, has quoted it.
It's a story about how great players can have terrible games in their first summer league. And the story is that Greg Ostertag killed Tim Duncan in his first summer league appearance.
I linked to such a quote, from Cheeks, the other day, and enterprising TrueHoop reader Cyn spent a day at the library going through old newspaper stories proving Cheeks wrong.
Cyn writes:
As for Ostertag 'killing' TD ... that's a matter of opinion.
Certainly the Utah team killed the combined summer league team of the Spurs and 76ers, as the final score was Jazz 85 and Spurs/76ers 59. Ouch.
Ostertag was a second year player. The article describes Ostertag as going up to slam a dunk on Duncan, but he hit the back rim instead.
Ostertag did block some of Tim's shots. The article doesn't specify how many but Ostertag had six blocks in the game.
Anyway, here are the boxscore lines from both players:
Tim Duncan 14 points/6 of 10 FG/8 rebs/3 assists/2 blocks
Greg Ostertag 21 points/7 of 12 FG/10 rebs/0 assists/5 blocks
Tim fouled out of the game getting his sixth foul at 2:52 of the fourth quarter. Maurice Cheeks got the game wrong (fifth not first) and while 'killed' might be harsh; Ostertag did get the better of Tim.
I appreciate the legwork, Cyn.
This story has been used to laugh off performances like Kevin Durant's 4 for 19 in his second game. I'm not worried about Kevin Durant's future. But I am worried about using a tale of a player who shot 60% from the floor to explain a player who shot 21%.
UPDATE: Tim Duncan spoke about that experience with Slam's Lang Whitaker: "Jermaine (O'Neal) destroyed me. He was with Portland, was real young ... and Tag threw my stuff into the first couple of rows a few times."
i have a short memory homie i can barley even remember 2009 and i didnt even watch summer league i dont pay for that
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