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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Official Lone Nut Thread

    o out there. I'm an avid reader of history. Among what I read, I don't neglect ancient history or the Middle Ages. Things like Gibbon's Fall of the Roman Empire and stuff like that.

    OK, I need a little help.

    In modern times, since 1800, here are several major political leaders who were killed, or attempted to be killed according to offical or standard histories, via a "lone nut":

    Spencer Perceval (1812)
    Andrew Jackson (1835)

    [note that Lincoln is not included. His killer was a nut, but not a lone nut]

    James Garfield (1881)
    William McKinley (1901)
    Ted Roosevelt (1912)
    Huey Long (1935)
    JFK (1963)
    MLK (1968)
    RFK (1968)
    George Wallace (1972)
    Ronald Reagan (1981)
    Anthrax Attacks (2001)

    There may be more that I have overlooked.

    Now here is what I am getting to. Among the annals of ancient Greece, ancient Rome, the Royal Courts of Europe, and the Popes, I can't recall a single "lone nut" assassination among the hundreds that have taken place prior to 1800.

    QUESTION:

    Can anyone find a "lone nut" assassination prior to 1800?

    The only possible one that comes to mind is the assassination of Philip of Macedon (Alexander the Great's father), but I'm not sure that standard histories call this a lone nut, or a plot involving others including Alexander's mom.


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    JFK was killed by a lone nut.

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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Are we counting Brutus stabbing Ceasar?

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    Ironically, lone nuts tend to be paranoid, delusional, and believe in conspiracies.

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Are we counting Brutus stabbing Ceasar?
    Brutus was part of a plot, he wasn't a lone nut.

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    JFK was killed by a lone nut.
    He is already on the list. Do you have any examplesa prior to 1800?

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Ironically, lone nuts tend to be paranoid, delusional, and believe in conspiracies.
    That's great. Can you name any lone nuts that pulled off an assassination prior to 1800?

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    Is there some point you're trying to make?

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    Is there some point you're trying to make?
    Shhhhhhh. That comes at the "twist ending" when he reveals that there's a conspiracy behind the lack of conspiracy regarding these "modern" lone-nut assassins.

    *SPOILER* I assume the twist is that in "modern" times it's easier to cover up plots and blame it on one dude, whereas people couldn't do that back in the day (pre-1800s).

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    Is there some point you're trying to make?
    You figure it out, you're the expert.


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    You figure it out, you're the expert.

    It's your thread. Why are you parrying requests for clarification? I think I see where your rhetorical questions are leading, but maybe somebody else wants you to supply the inference for them. It's afair enough request, don't you think?

    Give your own take, on your own thread, in your own words?

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    It's your thread. Why are you parrying requests for clarification? I think I see where your rhetorical questions are leading, but maybe somebody else wants you to supply the inference for them. It's afair enough request, don't you think?

    Give your own take, on your own thread, in your own words?
    The so-called "lone nuts" after 1800 aren't really lone nuts.

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    What about before?

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    What about before?
    None have been found. Thousands of political assassinations prior to 1800, and not one by a "lone nut".

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    Seems like you were getting all stompy about that for a minute.

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    None have been found. Thousands of political assassinations prior to 1800, and not one by a "lone nut".
    Surely the annals of history make note of the unanimity about this somewhere. DO tell, profe. Quit holding back on us.

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Surely the annals of history make note of the unanimity about this somewhere. DO tell, profe. Quit holding back on us.
    That's what we are checking here. Can anyone find a lone nut prior to 1800?
    Last edited by Galileo; 07-19-2010 at 12:32 AM.

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    Why is that my job? I'm not a student of antique "true crime." Aren't you the supposed expert on that? Again, there are gaps in the narrative....it's your job to fill them, not mine.

    I'm aware that you assume a universal negative, but you didn't show us your sums. Instead you taunted us all to defy the *truth* of what you say.

    Bravo, profe.

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    (clink)
    Last edited by Winehole23; 07-19-2010 at 02:36 AM.

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    Judas Iscariot

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    If there was only something that became accessible to people in the 1800s that made assassinations easy...

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    Ironically, lone nuts tend to be paranoid, delusional, and believe in conspiracies.
    I admit, that's pretty funny.

    If there was only something that became accessible to people in the 1800s that made assassinations easy...
    That's a pretty good one too.

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    You debunkers are lame. You can't find a single assassination attempt, or actual assassination prior to 1750 committed by a "lone nut".

    Pathetic!

    Securty wasn't as good in the Middle Ages as it is now, either. Find one or shut up!!

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Iscariot wasn't a loner. He was working with the Romans. He didn't kill anybody either. Nor was he a nut, he got paid 30 pieces of silver.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    Iscariot wasn't a loner. He was working with the Romans. He didn't kill anybody either. Nor was he a nut, he got paid 30 pieces of silver.
    Whether he was a loner is a matter of perspective.

    He was the lone wolf among the apostles.

    He sold his soul for those 30 pieces of silver, and he did kill someone directly...himself.

    What is your definition of a 'nut'?

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