The word is that Chris Paul is demanding a trade before the beginning of the season. As much as I like Parker, and I think he gets a lot of unfair criticism - CP3 would be a definite upgrade. For their part, the Hornets could (and probably will) do a lot worse.
Not only would Paul be an upgrade, but his contract would insure that the Spurs have a top-tier PG until Duncan retires. And after that, the re-building could begin with our without him. A lot of people say that the Spurs should be swinging for the fence, to give Duncan one more shot. Well whether you like him or not, signing Chris Paul would be a step in that direction.
I think the Hornets understand that Paul is as good as gone. I don't think they can afford to let all that fan excitement waste away. They stand a very good chance of getting back something much less in return for him, which would definitely kill the buzz in New Orleans. For them, taking a couple of medium-tier players, or a pretty good player and a project, would be a complete disaster.
I think the salaries are close enough to a match. The Spurs might have to give up something in the way of a future pick, or a young player - but maybe not. Paul says he would like to go to the Knicks, Lakers, or Magic. But the Lakers and Magic would only give up players that would make the Hornets a lot worse. And the Knicks don't have any players of that caliber left, so they would have to try to put together some kind of 3-way deal - and those are always difficult to get done. Most of the teams that could give the Hornets a fair return, Paul wouldn't want to play for. But the Spurs are still serious enough contenders that he might go for the deal.
Oh, and Parker speaks French. That's got to count for something in New Orleans.
Paul needs athletes around him to be most effective. The staple of his game is the pick and pop/alley oop to the rolling big. If you added up the verticals of Duncan, McDyess, Bonner, Blair, Splitter you might have enough to actually throw one down, but its iffy.
I'm sure Jefferson would love him though.
Paul needs athletes around him to be most effective. The staple of his game is the pick and pop/alley oop to the rolling big. If you added up the verticals of Duncan, McDyess, Bonner, Blair, Splitter you might have enough to actually throw one down, but its iffy.
I'm sure Jefferson would love him though.
That hasn't worked out too well for him so far, other than winning a lot of regular season games. He might get somewhere playing with a real big man.
He's got one of the best in-between games in the league, which the Spurs could definitely use. You're right that Jefferson would benefit, but I think everyone else would, too.
pauls allready given the no a list of teams he wants to go including ny/la orl etc unless demps wants to do us a real big favor
He wants to go to a contender. He may want to go to LA, Orlando, or NY - but for NO to swing a deal with those teams they would almost certainly have to accept a lot less than they would be giving up. (And a lot less than they would get with Tony Parker.) The Hornets might be doing us a favor, but they would be doing themselves a favor as well.
Take a look. Who would the Lakers be willing to give up to match salaries? Odem and Artest? What would that do for New Orleans?
Who would Orlando be willing to give up to match salaries? A package of Jameer Nelson, Pietrus, and Brandon Bass? Maybe Vince Carter? The Hornets get killed in any deal with the Magic.
Maybe the Knicks could swing something, but it would have to involve another team, because they don't have anyone the Hornets need. (Just like they didn't have anyone that the Spurs need.)
I don't think Paul could turn his nose up at a chance to play with Tim Duncan, or for the Spurs. He may want to be part of a mega-deal like Miami, but that's not going to happen. I think he would rather be here than New Olreans.
He won't sign an extension. Duncan is on the way out and he wants to play with another super star.
He doesn't have to sign an extension. He has two years left on his contract, with a player option for one more. If he doesn't like it here, he can move on at the same time Duncan retires. And Tim Duncan is a super star. Still.
That was my point about him giving the Spurs a guaranteed top-tier PG through the rest of Duncan's career. There's a very real possibility that Tony goes elsewhere after this season. Signing Paul would give some insurance that we can't get any other way.
Solid posting GSH.
wah
I like this move. I've always believed that to win a ring you need at least one of the top 5 players in the game. We use to have that in Tim. By getting Paul we can make that arguement that at least could potentially be a top 5 player
Isn't Parker already a top-tier PG? And I may be wrong but hasnt he already been a part of 3 championship teams?
Paul wants to hook-up with Amare and Melo in NYC and have a young core of superstars. No matter how good Tim is, he doesn't compete with that to someone like Paul because of his age.
blair can def get up did you not see that rookie/soph allstar dunk???? listen people think the spurs are unathletic as the 07 days, if paul has anderson/hill/blair/jefferson hopefully we get alonzo Gee/and hairston/temple those guys can jump.Paul needs athletes around him to be most effective. The staple of his game is the pick and pop/alley oop to the rolling big. If you added up the verticals of Duncan, McDyess, Bonner, Blair, Splitter you might have enough to actually throw one down, but its iffy.
I'm sure Jefferson would love him though.
It's hard to argue against trading Tony for Paul based on talent and the fact that such a trade would guarantee at least two more seasons of great play at the PG position, but considering this is basically the last year we have to make a run for the ring, I'm leery of bringing in a new starting PG and expecting him to figure out the system before the POs start.
Luckily, it's extremely unlikely that NO would trade with us, so we won't have to worry about it much, methinks.
i forgot about demps!!!, oh man that would be the best thank you to the spurs F.O
If the option is on the table, I'm sure we do it.
The Tim-Chris connection is there already...
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Git ir dun, RC!!
I have doubts about this potential Parker for Paul move. Parker is still an elite pg in this league obviously. Then there is the team chemistry factor. Would the whiny Paul fit in with the rest of the team? Would he be receptive to Pop's style of coaching? Sure, on the surface Paul for Parker would not be a bad move but these other factors must be considered as well.
That would be a better deal for the hornets because those players wouldn't leave at the end of the year.
Parker for Paul is a no-brainer for the spurs front office. Paul can do anything parker can do but better. Paul can pass,shoot,defend and he is super quick. Basically he can do anything parker can do but better.
Speaking in hypotheticals..
The Hornets would get nothing in terms of talent or picks if it traded Paul to the Knicks. Ditto with the Lakers.. With the magic it is a different ballgame though.
A Parker-Paul swap is a slight upgrade for the Spurs but the Hornets get Parker on an expiring contract and without the addition of any other talent.. The Hornets then could lose Parker for nothing to FA.
A trade with the magic makes most sense for the Hornets. Or some other better one elsewhere.
It's a definite upgrade, Though most reports have basically been that to get Paul other teams need to take on Okafor OR Peja as well for a ton of Expiring Contracts and young talent. Also, the fact that our young talent (Hill, Anderson, Blair) play the positions of their young guys (Collison, Thornton(Hill and Anderson) and Their 2 picks this year(Pondexter and Brackins(Blair, though Pondexter will probably spend most of his time at 3 and they're both more mobile) probably doesn't help.
If the Spurs give up Parker and i suppouse, Blair. Paul may be more than willing to do it, he knows the Spurs won´t be demanding an extension and he gets to finish his contract with a contender team that with him might get the championship.
On the other hand NO won trade Paul for a one year rental Tony Parker, it would need us to resign TP on a very favorable deal.
Except win rings with the Spurs
Seriously, Paul would be a bad fit in the Spurs system. I don't think he can live with his stats going down so much. People don't seem to understand that a player's stats are directly affected by the style played by a team, and the surrounding cast (and in case of stats, for elite players, their stats are usually better with a bad surrounding cast).
I think Pop would bench a PG after the 3rd alley-oop, because there's no ball control, no ball movement, no running the clock...
Paul will go to NY, have crazy stats in d'Antoni's system, a good shot at MVP (like Nash), and no rings.
Actually Parker to Paul will be a good move, to shut the Parker's haters down.Except win rings with the Spurs
Seriously, Paul would be a bad fit in the Spurs system. I don't think he can live with his stats going down so much. People don't seem to understand that a player's stats are directly affected by the style played by a team, and the surrounding cast (and in case of stats, for elite players, their stats are usually better with a bad surrounding cast).
I think Pop would bench a PG after the 3rd alley-oop, because there's no ball control, no ball movement, no running the clock...
Paul will go to NY, have crazy stats in d'Antoni's system, a good shot at MVP (like Nash), and no rings.
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