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Ever wonder why Fox Repugnant Network hasn't fomented similar demonstrations and hate-mongering about Wall St?
http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/a...getheated.html
Rallies over mosque near ground zero get heated
Rallies over mosque near ground zero get heated
VERENA DOBNIK
The Associated Press
NEW YORK - The proposed mosque near ground zero drew hundreds of fever-pitch demonstrators Sunday, with opponents carrying signs associating Islam with blood, supporters shouting, "Say no to racist fear!" and American flags waving on both sides.
Police separated the two groups but there were some nose-to-nose confrontations, including a man and a woman screaming at each other across a barricade under a steady rain.
Opponents of the plan to build a $100 million, 13-story Islamic center and mosque two blocks from the World Trade Center site appeared to outnumber supporters. Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" blared over loudspeakers as mosque opponents chanted, "No mosque, no way!"
Signs hoisted by hundreds of protesters standing behind police barricades read "SHARIA" , using dripping, blood-red letters to describe Islam's Shariah law. Around the corner, NYPD officers guarded a cordoned-off stretch of Park Place occupied by the old building that is to become the Islamic center.
Steve Ayling, a 40-year-old Brooklyn plumber who took his "SHARIA" sign to a dry spot by an office building, said the people behind the mosque project are "the same people who took down the twin towers."
Opponents demand that the mosque be moved farther from the site where nearly 3,000 people were killed on Sept. 11, 2001. Ayling said, "They should put it in the Middle East," and added that he still vividly remembers watching television on 9/11 "and seeing people jumping from the towers, and ashes falling on my house."
On a nearby sidewalk, police chased away a group that unfurled a banner with images of beating, stoning and other torture they said was committed by those who followed Islamic law.
The mosque project is being led by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and his wife, Daisy Khan, who insist the center will promote moderate Islam. The dispute has sparked a national debate on religious freedom and American values and is becoming an issue on the campaign trail ahead of the midterm elections. Republicans have been critical of President Barack Obama's stance: He has said the Muslims have the right to build the center at the site but has not commented on whether he thinks they should.
At a pro-mosque rally staged a block away from opponents' demonstration, several hundred people chanted, "Muslims are welcome here! We say no to racist fear!"
Dr. Ali Akram, a Brooklyn physician, came with his three sons and an 11-year-old nephew waving an American flag in his hand. He noted that scores of Muslims were among those who died in the towers, and he called those who oppose the mosque "un-American."
"They teach their children about the freedom of religion in America , but they don't practice what they preach," Akram said.
Gila Barzvi, whose son, Guy Barzvi, was killed in the towers, stood with mosque opponents, clutching a large photo of her son with both hands.
"This is sacred ground and it's where my son was buried," the native Israeli from Queens said. She said the mosque would be "like a knife in our hearts."
She was joined by a close friend, Kobi Mor, who flew from San Francisco to participate in the rally.
If the mosque gets built, "we will bombard it," Mor said. He would not elaborate but added that he believes the project "will never happen."
The Sunday rallies coincided with an annual motorcycle ride by a group that raises money for Sept. 11 first responders.
Bikers rolled in from the two other Sept. 11 attack sites, Washington and Shanksville, Pa.
The imam behind the project is in the middle of a Mideast trip funded by the U.S. State Department that is intended to promote religious tolerance. He has discussed efforts to combat extremism, but has avoided any comments on the rancor over the planned Islamic center.
Rauf told the Al Wasat newspaper in Bahrain that the freedoms enshrined by the U.S. Cons ution also reflect true Muslim values. A portion of the interview , to be published Monday , was seen Sunday by The Associated Press.
Sharia!
Ever wonder why Fox Repugnant Network hasn't fomented similar demonstrations and hate-mongering about Wall St?
It's obvious these people are well informed on the issue.
this is nothing compared to the violence from the pro-illegal immigration guys in Cali.
"For years, the American Right and neocons have been quick to accuse critics of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars of endangering American troops – by causing disunity, exposing counter-terror techniques, etc. – but these war enthusiasts are now the ones putting the lives of U.S. soldiers in jeopardy."
"The United States would have stood up before the world as a confident nation that lives – not just talks – its principles. The American welcoming of a mosque near the 9/11 site could have represented a propaganda blow to al-Qaeda and other extremists.
Instead, the opposite has occurred. The world has seen the United States appearing as a weak, prejudiced and vengeful nation, blaming an entire religion for the actions of a few adherents."
http://consortiumnews.com/Print/2010/081810.html
iow, OBL wins again, exposes America as petty, bigoted, xenophobic, retrograde, close-minded.
Terrorists beat America's huge, flabby ass again, and again, and again.
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A take that Fox hate-mongering does betrayus Petraeus:
"prime movers in the campaign against the “ground zero mosque” just happen to be among the last cheerleaders for America’s nine-year war in Afghanistan. The wrecking ball they’re wielding is not merely pounding Park51, as the project is known, but is demolishing America’s already frail support for that war, which is dedicated to nation-building in a nation whose most con uous asset besides opium is actual mosques. "
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/op...gewanted=print
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Or Code Pink, NAMBLA, PETA, or just about any other leftist group. Conservative protests are so mild compared to liberal protests.
Little to no uproar when the story first broke in Dec:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/ny.../09mosque.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38799106...deastn_africa/
Saudi judge considers punishment by paralysis
CAIRO — Amnesty International has spoken out against a Saudi judge who, earlier this week, asked hospitals in the country whether they cut the spinal cord of a man who was convicted of paralyzing another man in a fight.
"We urge the Saudi Arabian authorities not to carry out such a punishment, which amounts to nothing less than torture," Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui, director of Amnesty's Middle East and North Africa Program, said in a statement. "While those guilty of a crime should be held accountable, intentionally paralysing a man in this way would cons ute torture, and be a breach of its international human rights obligations."
Earlier this week, the brother of the victim — Abdul-Aziz al-Mutairi, 22 — told the media that the judge in the case was making inquiries about the deliberate paralysis.
The convicted man in the case allegedly attacked al-Mutairi with a cleaver two years ago, leaving al-Mutairi paralyzed. Al-Mutairi subsequently lost one of his feet.
Al-Mutairi asked a judge in northwestern Tabuk province to impose an equivalent punishment on his attacker under Islamic law, his brother Khaled al-Mutairi told The Associated Press by telephone from there.
He said one of the hospitals, located in Tabuk, responded that it is possible to damage the spinal cord, but it added that the operation would have to be done at another more specialized facility. Saudi newspapers reported that a second hospital in the capital Riyadh declined, saying it could not inflict such harm.
Administrative offices of two of the hospitals and the court in Tabuk were closed for the Saudi weekend beginning Thursday and could not be reached for comment.
Quite possibly the dumbest post in ST political forum history.
But Saudis have "our" oil so US loses its humanity.
Saddam govt bad (US didn't have it Saddam's oil),
Saudi govt good (US addicted to Saudi oil).
Another post. Another fail.
Darrin, why you hate all Muslims?
Sharia has nothing to do with Mosque!
Sharia!
America is a Sharia-compliant state.
Nervous laughter at end of video.
Ground Zero Mosque’s Hidden Websites: Follow the Shariah
http://bigpeace.com/cbrim/2010/08/17...w-the-shariah/
born in the USA is probably the most misunderstood rock anthem of all time.
LOL, I thought this earlier when I read this, I even said out loud "why do people keep using Born in the USA as some kind of uber-patriot song?" Unfortunately, the only people around me were too young to even know that song.
I think Frank Rich has nailed the hypocrisy on this one.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/opinion/22rich.html
Op-Ed Columnist
How Fox Betrayed Petraeus
By FRANK RICH
Published: August 21, 2010
THE "ground zero mosque," as you may well know by now, is not at ground zero. It’s not a mosque but an Islamic cultural center containing a prayer room. It's not going to determine President Obama's political future or the elections of 2010 or 2012. Still, the battle that has broken out over this project in Lower Manhattan — on the "hallowed ground" of a shuttered Burlington Coat Factory store one block from the New York Dolls Gentlemen’s Club - will prove eventful all the same. And the consequences will be far more profound than any midterm election results or any of the grand debates now raging 24/7 over the parameters of tolerance, religious freedom, and the real estate gospel of location, location, location.
Here's what's been lost in all the screaming. The prime movers in the campaign against the "ground zero mosque" just happen to be among the last cheerleaders for America’s nine-year war in Afghanistan. The wrecking ball they're wielding is not merely pounding Park51, as the project is known, but is demolishing America's already frail support for that war, which is dedicated to nation-building in a nation whose most con uous asset besides opium is actual mosques.
So virulent is the Islamophobic hysteria of the neocon and Fox News right - abetted by the useful idiocy of the Anti-Defamation League, Harry Reid and other cowed Democrats - that it has also rendered Gen. David Petraeus's last-ditch counterinsurgency strategy for fighting the war inoperative. How do you win Muslim hearts and minds in Kandahar when you are calling Muslims every filthy name in the book in New York?
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We owe thanks to Justin Elliott of Salon for the single most revealing account of this controversy's evolution. He reports that there was zero reaction to the "ground zero mosque" from the front-line right or anyone else except marginal bloggers when The Times first reported on the Park51 plans in a lengthy front-page article on Dec. 9, 2009. The sole exception came some two weeks later at Fox News, where Laura Ingraham, filling in on "The O'Reilly Factor," interviewed Daisy Khan, the wife of the project's organizer, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. Ingraham gave the plans her blessing. "I can't find many people who really have a problem with it," she said. "I like what you're trying to do."
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How can you not love this guy?
The US has always been perfect and any acknowledgment to anything different will cause you to be crucified by Fox News..
hey darrins what does this have to do with the Mosque?
Sharia!
OBL himself said his objective for attacking US was because the occupation of Saudi/Muslim "sacred ground" by US boots.
So, yes, US's occupation of SA to secure US's oil addiction was responsible for the WTC attack.
Substance abusers, like oil druggies, almost never admit they have a problem.
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You fail
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