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Hey man, freedom of expression man.
Separation of Church books and state man.
It's a shame that someone has to say thishttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...koran-burning/
Petraeus: Burning Koran Puts American Lives 'in Jeopardy'
The top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan warned Tuesday a Florida church's threat to burn copies of the Muslim holy book could endanger U.S. troops in the country and Americans worldwide.
"Images of the burning of a Koran would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan -- and around the world -- to inflame public opinion and incite violence ," Gen. David Petraeus said. "Were the actual burning to take place, the safety of our soldiers and civilians would be put in jeopardy and accomplishment of the mission would be made more difficult."
His comments followed a protest Monday by hundreds of Afghans over the plans by Gainesville, Florida-based Dove World Outreach Center -- a small, evangelical Christian church that espouses anti-Islam philosophy -- to burn copies of the Koran on church grounds to mark the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Petraeus warned images of burning Korans could be used to incite anti-American sentiment similar to the pictures of prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Graib prison.
"I am very concerned by the potential repercussions of the possible (Koran) burning. Even the rumor that it might take place has sparked demonstrations such as the one that took place in Kabul yesterday," Petraeus said
Sept. 6: Afghans burn an effigy of Dove World Outreach Center's pastor Terry Jones during a demonstration against the U.S. in Kabul.
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"It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort in Afghanistan. It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems. Not just here, but everywhere in the world we are engaged with the Islamic community," he said in a statement provided to Fox News.
Though Dove World Outreach Center has been denied a permit to hold a bonfire, the Koran burning is still scheduled to proceed on Saturday. The burning -- set to mark nine years since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks -- follows a campaign last year in which the church distributed T-shirts that said "Islam is of the Devil."
In a blog on the church's website, writer Fran Ingram offered the groups’ reasoning for burning the Koran, arguing that it is not God's word and denies Jesus is the son of God, that Islam is totalitarian and that the religion teaches idolatry, paganism, rites and rituals.
"We are using this act to warn about the teaching and ideology of Islam, which we do hate as it is hateful. We do not hate any people, however. We love, as God loves, all the people in the world and we want them to come to a knowledge of the truth," the blog reads.
Other writings by the same blogger include headlines like "Islam is Cursed by Cursing Israel" and "The Koran: A Sorcerer's Scroll."
The U.S. Embassy in Kabul issued a statement condemning the church's plans, saying Washington was "deeply concerned about deliberate attempts to offend members of religious or ethnic groups."
But outside the U.S. Embassy, where as many as 500 protestors chanted "Long live Islam" and "Death to America," demonstrators argued that the church isn't acting of its own will.
"We know this is not just the decision of a church. It is the decision of the president and the entire United States," said Abdul Shakoor, an 18-year-old high school student who said he joined the protest after hearing neighborhood gossip about the Koran burning.
Burning a Koran is considered by Muslims among the most offensive actions taken against Islam. In 2005, 15 people died and scores were wounded in riots in Afghanistan sparked by a story in Newsweek magazine alleging that interrogators at the U.S. detention center in Guantanamo Bay placed copies of the Koran in washrooms and had flushed one down the toilet to get inmates to talk. Newsweek later retracted the story.
Hey man, freedom of expression man.
Separation of Church books and state man.
So then no more complaining when anyone burns a bible... (not you specifically)
I'm just kidding. This guy is an idiot. He's going to sir up the hornets and probably get jihad'd on.
Of course if this was a Mosque and they were burning bibles the resident dead enders would have been in an uproar... Fox news would have done multiple news stories and sean hannity would be whoring the story...
I agree with Petraus, it is a ridiculous and unnecessary provocation. But, being in and uproar and "whoring" a story over the burning of a Bible is a bit different than what Muslims usually advocate in response to desecration of their holy book.
i say burn all holy books..........and who ever comes running to complain gets burned with them.
Yeah, but the Christians wouldn't start beheading a bunch of people.
Say what you will about the Jesus Freaks, but at least they have evolved past the stone age.
no they haven't.
So, these people have a legal right to burn the Koran, but it would be morally wrong to do so because it would be insensitive to Muslims, right?
Hmmm. Seems oddly familiar.
Comparatively, they have.
If Christians started beheading people then it would be much too difficult to get money out of them.
Exactly.
IIRC, they can't burn (anything) inside the city limits, much like in San Antonio.
But they answer to Something Above The Law (like an "Christian" asshole preacher).
You're right and the same principle stands with this issue..
magnified by the fact that we are in Afghanistan getting our asses shot at.
Not really. The argument is that it would be morally wrong because you would potentially be causing the unnecessary deaths of more US troops. Do you think the potential current placement of the mosque will lead to unnecessary deaths of more US troops?
I think there is a fundamental error in your logic.
It's not that the building of the mosque would cause unnecessary deaths of more US troops; the more accurate analogy is that as the burning of the Koran would incense Muslim extremists to harm U. S. Troops, the building of the mosque would incense American or Christian extremists to harm Muslims.
I don't think it's unreasonable to believe there may be a family member of one of the victims of 9-11 or some other individual (either due to mental illness or extreme political views) that would set out to wreak havoc at the Ground Zero mosque.
Both acts could be considered morally wrong because they prey on the imbalance of the most extreme opponents. Rights have very little to do with the argument.
What the are you talking about?
Are you equating the building of a mosque to burning the koran? are you saying they have the same purpose in essence?
one is a deliberate act to insult the Muslim religion, the other is the construction of a peaceful place of worship. Its not the mosque builders fault that the paranoid in America choose to misconstrue what the mosque means. On the other hand, there is no misconstruing the meaning of burning a Koran.
What a bunch of bull !
That's our Yoni!
Not everyone believes the building of a mosque at Ground Zero is a peaceful act. In fact, there are Muslims who are calling it an act of fitna -- in essence, rubbing our noses in the Muslim victory there.
But, to your point, I wasn't equating the two; I was pointing out there are extreme individuals who equate the two and, therefore, the acts could lead to similar outcomes.
Granted, there are more extreme Muslims that are unable to get their minds around the concept of a Koran being a simple book of paper and ink than there are extreme Americans that would act on the fitna provocation but, nonetheless, that is the analogy I was making.
And, you'll note, I did so to correct another person flawed logic that both would lead to harm to American soldiers.
What Muslims? Where?
So you're saying it's reasonable to believe that Americans will become religious terrorists.
Nice.
I didn't see religion in that quote.
Why would they target the mosque?
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