Page 1 of 8 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 188
  1. #1
    I believe in yesterday Zelophehad's Avatar
    Post Count
    1,322
    "According to two league sources, Austin will earn $57 million over the length of the contract."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl...ory?id=5551668

  2. #2
    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
    Post Count
    5,915

  3. #3
    Bruce Bowen 2.0 Horry For 3!'s Avatar
    Post Count
    18,446
    Yeah, ESPN just reported it.

  4. #4
    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
    My Team
    Oakland Raiders
    Post Count
    24,616
    He's a beast.

  5. #5
    hope and change
    Post Count
    5,749

    one great half-season and he gets a 6 year deal. they'll cut him after 3

  6. #6
    This is the funniest thing i have heard since the boy hidden in my closet screamed for his mommy.

  7. #7

    one great half-season and he gets a 6 year deal. they'll cut him after 3
    He's good, but I feel the same way. A half season for 57 million?

    Worse, some football stat geek on ESPN ran an article recently saying he had some data that proved Austin was easily the best reciever in the NFL.

  8. #8
    Master of Information Dr. Gonzo's Avatar
    My Team
    Houston Texans
    Post Count
    8,678
    Worse, some football stat geek on ESPN ran an article recently saying he had some data that proved Austin was easily the best reciever in the NFL.
    90210 agrees with that statement.

  9. #9
    90210 agrees with that statement.
    The funny part is there was a direct comparison with Andre Johnson and he said Austin blows Johnson out of the water.






  10. #10
    The funny part of that is how the stat geek didn't account for the fact AJ sees safety help on virtually every play.

  11. #11
    "Miles Austin has surpassed Andre Johnson as the best receiver in the league"

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid..._kc&id=5398251



    Miles Austin has seized the WR crown
    Andre Johnson isn't even the best receiver in his state anymore

    * Email
    * Print
    * Comments331

    Joyner By KC Joyner
    ESPN Insider
    Archive

    Getty ImagesIf the Cowboys are to reach a Super Bowl in their stadium, Miles Austin needs to play a huge role.

    One of the methods that former college football coach Bear Bryant used to settle positional battles early in his coaching career was the "challenge system." This allowed any player to call for a one-on-one battle with a starter. The two would go head-to-head in a variety of areas (blocking, tackling, receiving, etc.) to see who was the best at executing the key responsibilities of the position. The winner would claim the prize as starter.

    If such a system existed in the world of statistical analysis, there would be many potential challengers to Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson for the le of best wide receiver in the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss and Reggie Wayne all would serve as worthy foes for Johnson, but surprisingly enough, none of them would rank as the No. 1 contender.

    The real compe ion for Johnson as the NFL's premier wideout comes from within the state in which he plays pro football. Many might not consider Miles Austin to be an elite wideout yet, but he actually had a better set of metrics than any of the three other aforementioned contenders this past season.

    So did he do enough last season to beat the perceived champion for the belt?
    Andre Johnson
    Andre Johnson
    #80 WR
    Houston Texans

    2009 STATS

    * Rec101
    * Yds1569
    * TD9
    * Avg15.5
    * Long72
    * YAC532

    To find out, let's do it like Bryant's players and run a 10-stage challenge. We'll compare both Austin's and Johnson's yards per attempt (YPA) metrics in 10 main receiving categories. At the end, whoever has the most victories will win the honor of best wide receiver in the NFL.

    A full chart follows the breakdown by category.

    Short passes (thrown downfield 10 yards or fewer)
    Austin's 9.4 YPA topped Johnson's 6.0 mark by more than a 50 percent margin. That is enough to give him a win, but it is also worth noting that Austin didn't just beat Johnson in this metric but also led the entire league in this category.
    Challenge status: Austin 1, Johnson 0

    Medium passes (11-19 yards downfield)
    OK, so Austin wins on dinks and dunks, but can he beat Johnson on the deep out, deep in and comeback routes that make up the bulk of the medium-depth patterns? Not exactly, but he didn't lose to him, either. Austin and Johnson both gained 12.1 YPA on medium routes last season.
    Challenge status: Austin 1, Johnson 0, 1 tie

    Deep passes (20-29 yards downfield)
    For most receivers, the deeper the pass, the more likely it is they would lose to Johnson, but Austin won this category as well. His 20.3 mark ranked ninth in the league and nearly doubled Johnson's 10.9 YPA.
    Challenge status: Austin 2, Johnson 0, 1 tie

    Bomb-length passes (30 or more yards downfield)
    Go patterns are the kings of this route depth, and this is where Johnson starts to make his stand. His 26.1 YPA ranked seventh in the league overall and second among wideouts with 10 or more bomb attempts. It also nearly doubled Austin's 13.8 YPA mark.
    Challenge status: Austin 2, Johnson 1, 1 tie

    Vertical (all medium, deep and bomb passes)
    Johnson's lead in the bomb-pass category helped vault him over Austin in this all-encompassing category, but not by much. Johnson posted a 14.5 YPA mark, ranking 10th in the league, while Austin checked in with a 13.7 YPA total (which ranked 15th).
    Challenge status: Austin 2, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    Overall YPA (all route depths)
    Johnson's bomb-pass prowess helped him close enough ground to win the vertical category, but it wasn't enough to overcome Austin here. Austin's 11.2 overall YPA mark ranked fourth and was more than a yard ahead of Johnson's 9.9 YPA total.
    Challenge status: Austin 3, Johnson 2, 1 tie
    Miles Austin
    Miles Austin
    #19 WR
    Dallas Cowboys

    2009 STATS

    * Rec81
    * Yds1320
    * TD11
    * Avg16.3
    * Long60
    * YAC588

    In the portion of this challenge based on depth of the pass route, Austin is the winner -- but distance alone is not the only indicator of how good a receiver is. Another way to measure receiving excellence is to see how well each wideout did when facing varying levels of compe ion.

    I went through the breakdown charts I did for every game from the 2009 season and pulled out the plays on which a receiver faced a cornerback. I then assigned color-coded grades to the cornerbacks based on their 2009 YPA totals (which can be found in the KC Joyner Metricmania section in the 2010 ESPN The Magazine fantasy football preview).

    Against cornerbacks who yield YPAs of 7 yards or fewer on average (red-rated CBs)
    Austin was hardly fazed by elite compe ion, as he posted 12.0 YPA against them. Johnson's 8.0 YPA in this category ranked 18th in the league but didn't keep up with Austin's total.
    Challenge status: Austin 4, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    Against CBs who yield 7-9 YPA on average (yellow-rated CBs)
    Austin put up 9.8 YPA here versus Johnson's 6.9. Another win for Austin.
    Challenge status: Austin 5, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    Against CBs who yield 9 or more YPA on average (green-rated CBs)
    Johnson was very good at dominating overmatched cornerbacks, something shown by his 14.6 YPA. He wasn't as good as Austin and his 17.7 YPA, however.
    Challenge status: Austin 6, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    Against CBs in general
    With wins in all three color-coded cornerback categories, it is obvious Austin won this part of the challenge as well (13.4 YPA versus Johnson's 9.9 mark), but just as was the case on short passes, it is worth noting that Austin ranked No. 1 in the league in this metric.

    It also means he won the compe ion by a score of 7-2-1.

    Here's the full breakdown, minus the category of "vertical" from above and organized by YPA.

    The Texas battle

    Here's a full breakdown of Andre Johnson versus Miles Austin in several key metric categories, as graded by YPA (yards per attempt). The colors associated with cornerbacks are explained within the article above and within the 2010 ESPN The Magazine fantasy football preview.
    Name Short Routes Medium Routes Deep Routes Bomb Routes Overall Routes Vs. Red CBs Vs. Yellow CBs Vs. Green CBs Vs. CBs overall
    Miles Austin 9.4 12.1 20.3 13.8 11.2 12.0 9.8 17.7 13.4
    Andre Johnson 6.0 12.1 10.9 26.1 9.9 8.0 6.9 14.6 9.9

    Some might say these categories don't tell the whole story, but Austin also beat Johnson in yards per reception (16.3 to 15.5), touchdown receptions (11 to 9) and success percentage (69.4 percent to 64.6 percent).

    Simply put, as great as Johnson is, in 2009 he not only wasn't the best wide receiver in the NFL, but wasn't even the best wide receiver in Texas. That honor belonged to Austin.

    KC Joyner, aka the Football Scientist, is a regular contributor to ESPN Insider. He also can be found on Twitter @kcjoynertfs and at his website. He is also the author of "Blindsided: Why the Left Tackle is Overrated and Other Contrarian Football Thoughts.".

  12. #12
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    Post Count
    74,377
    now he will suck
    he got his big payday

  13. #13
    ducks has spoken

  14. #14
    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
    Post Count
    5,915
    now he will suck
    he got his big payday
    !

    I had high hopes for this season, but ducks () has spoken and sealed the cowboys fate.

  15. #15
    bandwagoner fans suck duckz's Avatar
    Post Count
    34
    contract for austin is a lot of money cowboys in trouble
    they still have ware's bird rights so at least he don't leave

  16. #16
    Master of Information Dr. Gonzo's Avatar
    My Team
    Houston Texans
    Post Count
    8,678
    duckz

  17. #17
    tbh, ducks "heated" argument with DoK over Leinart has been the highlight of the NFL season thus far

  18. #18
    Fortunately Ken Whisenhunt decided who won that argument last Saturday

  19. #19
    Watching the collapse benefactor's Avatar
    My Team
    Houston Oilers
    Post Count
    42,233
    tbh, ducks "heated" argument with DoK over Leinart has been the highlight of the NFL season thus far

  20. #20
    lol duckz

  21. #21
    duckz has spoken

  22. #22
    duckz>ducks

  23. #23
    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Cowboys
    Post Count
    20,390
    90210 agrees with that statement.
    got your wires crossed, dude...if you paid attention to my comments, you'd know that I believe the best WR in the league resides in Houston.

  24. #24
    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Cowboys
    Post Count
    20,390
    The funny part is there was a direct comparison with Andre Johnson and he said Austin blows Johnson out of the water.





    you are full of ...the only time I ever compared the two was when I said this..

    Miles Austin's first two starts - 421 yards, 4 TDs
    Andre Johnson's first two starts - 147 yards, 0 TDs
    And I only did that to pay a compliment to Miles, by comparing him to Andre...just stating a fact. I've said many times on this forum that I believe Andre Johnson is the best WR in the league.

  25. #25
    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Cowboys
    Post Count
    20,390
    tbh...I don't think he's earned a contract like that..he had one of the best 2 month stints in football as a WR...but that's all he's done...it's not worth that much. They only did that because they were worried if he blew up again this year, they'd have to pay a lot more next year.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •