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Aww, to see the next young educated kids at work just warms my heart.
Yale Frat Pledges Chant “No Means Yes, Yes Means Anal”
Lest you think that rape culture is confined to simply excellent ins utions of higher education, Salon reports that Yale students pledging the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity were marched by women’s dorms marching “no means yes, yes means anal.” Salon’s Tracy Clark-Flory writes:
Now, DKE President Jordan Forney has been forced to apologize for this blatant sexual intimidation by calling it “a serious lapse in judgment by the fraternity and in very poor taste.” But this sort of hateful crap isn’t a “lapse in judgment.” It doesn’t innocently happen that you’re guiding male pledges by young women’s dorms in the dark of night chanting about anal rape. It isn’t a forehead-slapping slip-up, it’s a sign that you need major reprogramming as a human being.
UPDATE: Sociologist Michael Kimmel has a fantastic analysis of the second half of the chant:
This chant assumes that anal sex is not pleasurable for women; that if she says yes to intercourse, you have to go further to an activity that you experience as degrading to her, dominating to her, not pleasurable to her. This second chant is a necessary corollary to the first.
Thanks to feminism, women have claimed the ability to say both “no” and “yes.” Not only have women come to believe that “No Means No,” that they have a right to not be assaulted and raped, but also that they have a right to say “yes” to their own desires, their own sexual agency. Feminism enabled women to find their own sexual voice.
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This is confusing to many men, who see sex not as mutual pleasuring, but about the “girl hunt,” a chase, a conquest. She says no, he breaks down her resistance. Sex is a zero-sum game. He wins if she puts out; she loses.
That women can like sex, and especially like good sex, and are capable of evaluating their partners changes the landscape. If women say “yes,” where’s the conquest, where’s the chase, where’s the pleasure? And where’s the feeling that your victory is her defeat? What if she is doing the scoring, not you?
Thus the “Yes Means Anal” part of the chant. Sex has become unsafe for men–women are agentic and evaluate our performances. So if “No Means Yes” attempts to make what is safe for women unsafe, then “Yes Means Anal” makes what is experienced as unsafe for men again safe–back in that comfort zone of conquest and victory. Back to something that is assumed could not possibly be pleasurable for her. It makes the unsafe safe–for men.
In this way, we can see the men of DKE at Yale not as a bunch of angry predators, asserting their dominance, but as a more pathetic bunch of guys who see themselves as powerless losers, trying to re-establish a sexual landscape which they feel has been thrown terribly off its axis.
For more indications that we live in a rape culture, see our posts on media coverage of a rape video game and the George Sodini murders, rapists as hyperconformists to ideal masculinity, the rape scene in Observe and Report, t-shirts endorsing sex with “drunk girls”, and, of course, the Purdue Exponent’s sex position of the week.
lol who the cares
It's pretty much like when you call other men sexual, jack.we can see the men of DKE at Yale not as a bunch of angry predators, asserting their dominance, but as a more pathetic bunch of guys who see themselves as powerless losers, trying to re-establish a sexual landscape which they feel has been thrown terribly off its axis.
Sure it is. Calling for anal rape is exactly the same, chump.
Rape culture sounds like the best porno rag ever tbh
Sounds like you care.
lol not really
agentic is not even a word btw
I was wondering about that one.
Apparently it just means they know the score.
I've said worse.
Thanks.
That was hilariously predictable.
lol nice
Apparently it just means they know the score.
seriously, I wanna find out about Rape! the video game. Anyone know if its out on PS3 yet?
Left-wing women deserve rape to the point of fistula.
What a sick thread.
When I saw this story on TV, I couldn't help but lmao, tbh.
The stupid women lawyers talking about the pledges comitting hate crimes against women, terrorizing the girls into thinking they are going to be gang raped...what bull .
How are they not both? It's no secret that rape is a crime of power, but that doesn't mean it isn't predatory.In this way, we can see the men of DKE at Yale not as a bunch of angry predators, asserting their dominance, but as a more pathetic bunch of guys who see themselves as powerless losers, trying to re-establish a sexual landscape which they feel has been thrown terribly off its axis.
Go rot in troll .
LMAO.
They were just joking. These older people of today don't understand young culture, in particular, internet culture.
It's not serious....just jokes
anal sex is unsafe for both.
Hilarious.
It is hilarious.
I use the "woman, what are u doing out of the kitchen?" and "make me a sandwich" lines all the time.
yet i am not actually serious. just having fun
lighten up and dont take yourself so seriously
You may not be "serious" about thinking rape is funny, but the fact that you think that this kind of "joke" is "young culture, in particular, internet culture" is ing depressing.
Of course a man who is not traditionally in a position to have to worry about being a victim of sexual assault may be able to laugh at this because it's not a credible threat. Having worked in sexual assault crisis intervention, where the vast majority of survivors that I counseled were assaulted by people they knew (in particular the workplace and school), and being of the gender that is more often the target of assaults like this, I happen to think that it's not "hilarious."
YOUR youth and YOUR internet may revolve around the world of hetero-male privilege, but your generalization of what youth and the internet have become is either offensively faulty or horrific in its small grain of truth.
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