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    Do you like the new passing version, or the 08-09 scoring machine?


    Personally, I think he can be both this year. I think all the 3-point threats will allow his assists to go up and Tiago will open the lane for him as the season goes on.

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    i like the one that will bring us a championship.

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    his apg will go up if his willing to pass the ball when his tryin to create something out of something from something you call this thing, which is something out of thing...

    no seriously this season is different to the season when he signed that extention a few seasons ago when he tried to live up to it in the first few games, now his learn from it...

    but cmon man 7 games into the season with a 6-1 standing, small data to quantify when all the spurs did is beat fodder teams

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    Parker is playing great, definetly extending him was the right thing to do, hes more than living up to his contract.

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    Tony looks great so far. It's nice to see he combines his scoring with passing well. I hope he can keep this up and increase his scoring a bit more. I'm excited about this season. It feels good. Go Spurs!!


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    Everyody loves this year's TP, it's a no brainner...

    But I don't think his extentention or even his summer of rest is the main reason, I think it comes from the new pace they are paying at, for the first time Tony is really allowed to push the tempo, if you add RJ making his 3s... do the maths!

    But it's defenitely nice to see SpursTalk showing some love to him!

    On Tony's 10th yearas a spur, it was finaly time...

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    The balance he is showing between passing and scoring has been absolutely perfect for what the team has needed. I've never trusted the team more in his hands, and it doesn't hurt that everyone is knocking down shots around him.

    I think his career will be greatly extended if he keeps up the passing game.

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    Hes playing GREAT defense as well. I think this version of parker has shown to be extremely potent on offense when he wants to be in addition to his passing.

    With that said, I take this defensive, play making, havoc wrecking Tony Parker.

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    Tony's been awesome. He's really brought the energy this year. I love the balance he's finding between scoring and passing. His defense has been pretty good to coming up with all of those steals.

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    Hes playing GREAT defense as well. I think this version of parker has shown to be extremely potent on offense when he wants to be in addition to his passing.

    With that said, I take this defensive, play making, havoc wrecking Tony Parker.
    +1

    Average scoring + Good passing + Great defense = All star Parker

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    This is the Tony Parker I've been waiting years for. The pass first & get teammates involved but also find time to score his efficient 18-20 pts on 50+% shooting. I have nothing bad to say about this version of TP.

    Have one on me, Tony Parker.

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    Everyody loves this year's TP, it's a no brainner...

    But I don't think his extentention or even his summer of rest is the main reason, I think it comes from the new pace they are paying at, for the first time Tony is really allowed to push the tempo, if you add RJ making his 3s... do the maths!

    But it's defenitely nice to see SpursTalk showing some love to him!

    On Tony's 10th yearas a spur, it was finaly time...
    yeah, that's indeed nice to see, though still subtle/modest.


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    his apg will go up if his willing to pass the ball when his tryin to create something out of something from something you call this thing, which is something out of thing...

    no seriously this season is different to the season when he signed that extention a few seasons ago when he tried to live up to it in the first few games, now his learn from it...

    but cmon man 7 games into the season with a 6-1 standing, small data to quantify when all the spurs did is beat fodder teams
    Spurs are playing very well offensively. Of course, like you said, none of the teams are contenders.

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    Just watching the game now, holy #@$%@% that was a nice drop pass to Blair in the 1st quarter. I'm really in' impressed. Last year's version of TP would have forced up a contested layup which probably would have been blocked by Deandre Jordan.

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    +1

    Average scoring + Good passing + Great defense = All star Parker

    For the Spurs, yes! But for the West...?

    His scoring numbers won't be high enough, there is Paul, Deron (no brainers), the medias love Nash, Westbrook and Curry...

    He'll have to have a few outstanding performances on national tv and a few injuries to have a shot at the ASG this year (and years to come)!

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    Tony's not passing at any higher percentage of possessions than he has in years past. He's just got a couple of guys bombing away and making threes this year. The faster pace helps, too.

    It really also looks like he's made a commitment to defense this year, and not just in the steals department. His P'n'R defense is vastly improved, and he's aggressively getting out to shooters on rotations.

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    Tony's not passing at any higher percentage of possessions than he has in years past. He's just got a couple of guys bombing away and making threes this year. The faster pace helps, too.

    It really also looks like he's made a commitment to defense this year, and not just in the steals department. His P'n'R defense is vastly improved, and he's aggressively getting out to shooters on rotations.
    I smell some bull here, I'm not buying that its all just guys 'making shots'. There's no way last year's Parker makes that fast-break drop pass to Blair.

    What I think is going on here, is Tony Parker has finally realized how much more effective he can be as a point guard by using that blazing speed & quickness to also create opportunites for others instead of all for himself.

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    Tony's not passing at any higher percentage of possessions than he has in years past. He's just got a couple of guys bombing away and making threes this year. The faster pace helps, too.

    It really also looks like he's made a commitment to defense this year, and not just in the steals department. His P'n'R defense is vastly improved, and he's aggressively getting out to shooters on rotations.
    Exactly, TP passing ability is not that different compared to previous years. The faster pace and the fact the 3 pts guys are making their shoot (passing for the open 3 guy is the fundation of his passing stat) are explaining the improvement in this area more than an evolution of his playmaking book.

    For me there are two major changes:

    - his willingness to go after steals, he is stealing 2,3 balls per game the double of his career high (1,2 in 2005).
    - his early high level Defense (normally he keeps this D insenty for the PO). I think the team is concentrated a lot more on the RS than the previous years, it's a change for TP but also for the others.

    A nice little improvement is his FTs shooting 84% (career high).

    The negatives now:

    - He is not shooting the ball at his 50% standard, 46,6% so far. This is the most significant flaw so far, with the team shooting well the ball, his shot selection could have been better and we could have expected a better efficiency.
    - He is not getting a lot of FTs only 3,6 per game which is very low.

    Of course it is too way too soon (7 games) to get a clear picture, for the moment spurs only played two tough defensive team he did pretty well against Charlotte but was not so good against NO.

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    It's amazing when you pass to your teammates and they actually make a shot. Eh?

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    Exactly, TP passing ability is not that different compared to previous years. The faster pace and the fact the 3 pts guys are making their shoot (passing for the open 3 guy is the fundation of his passing stat) are explaining the improvement in this area more than an evolution of his playmaking book.

    For me there are two major changes:

    - his willingness to go after steals, he is stealing 2,3 balls per game the double of his career high (1,2 in 2005).
    - his early high level Defense (normally he keeps this D insenty for the PO). I think the team is concentrated a lot more on the RS than the previous years, it's a change for TP but also for the others.

    A nice little improvement is his FTs shooting 84% (career high).

    The negatives now:

    - He is not shooting the ball at his 50% standard, 46,6% so far. This is the most significant flaw so far, with the team shooting well the ball, his shot selection could have been better and we could have expected a better efficiency.
    - He is not getting a lot of FTs only 3,6 per game which is very low.

    Of course it is too way too soon (7 games) to get a clear picture, for the moment spurs only played two tough defensive team he did pretty well against Charlotte but was not so good against NO.

    Great post

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    Tony Parker looks like he wants to take his game to the next level. He is averaging career highs in assists and steals, while holding a respectable ppg% and fg%, The biggest difference is that the perimeter shooters are hitting their shots, but Parker is definitely looking for them more than he used to. He is even kicking it out on drives a lot more. Parker and Jefferson could turn into a pretty dangerous combo if he ever learns how to throw a lob pass.

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    Exactly, TP passing ability is not that different compared to previous years. The faster pace and the fact the 3 pts guys are making their shoot (passing for the open 3 guy is the fundation of his passing stat) are explaining the improvement in this area more than an evolution of his playmaking book.

    For me there are two major changes:

    - his willingness to go after steals, he is stealing 2,3 balls per game the double of his career high (1,2 in 2005).
    - his early high level Defense (normally he keeps this D insenty for the PO). I think the team is concentrated a lot more on the RS than the previous years, it's a change for TP but also for the others.

    A nice little improvement is his FTs shooting 84% (career high).

    The negatives now:

    - He is not shooting the ball at his 50% standard, 46,6% so far. This is the most significant flaw so far, with the team shooting well the ball, his shot selection could have been better and we could have expected a better efficiency.
    - He is not getting a lot of FTs only 3,6 per game which is very low.

    Of course it is too way too soon (7 games) to get a clear picture, for the moment spurs only played two tough defensive team he did pretty well against Charlotte but was not so good against NO.
    This is absurd. Parker has defenitely altered his game somewhat, you guys are ing blind.

    Parker is averaging 8.4 assists this year as opposed to last year's 5.7. Big difference there, almost 3 assists per contest.

    Spurs as a team have taken 62-146 (.425), as opposed to last year's (.358). Applying last year's % to this year yields 52-146.

    So basically your claiming those 10 more made 3's (oh, and the "faster tempo"... as if Parker ever went slow) accounts for all of his added assists?

    I don't think so.

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    Tony Parker looks like he wants to take his game to the next level. He is averaging career highs in assists and steals, while holding a respectable ppg% and fg%, The biggest difference is that the perimeter shooters are hitting their shots, but Parker is definitely looking for them more than he used to. He is even kicking it out on drives a lot more. Parker and Jefferson could turn into a pretty dangerous combo if he ever learns how to throw a lob pass.
    +1

    At least somebody else gets it.

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    +1

    At least somebody else gets it.
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