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I've always had a gut feeling that the 2008 presidential race would be between Rice and Clinton.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politic...0whisplead.htmRice Wants It--But in Draft Form
Political associates of Secretary of State Condi Rice are stirring the 2008 presidential pot on her behalf. While she takes the high road, they're pushing her name out there. "She definitely wants to be president," said one. But, the friend added, Rice isn't planning on quitting to run. "She wants to be drafted," he said.
Very encouraging for Condistas....
I've always had a gut feeling that the 2008 presidential race would be between Rice and Clinton.
For all the chatter about a Billary run, I'm not so sure she is going to get the nomination. She carries an awful lot of baggage. Perhaps too much baggage for a presidential run.
baggage? the blood of 1200 american soldiers on Rice's hands over a bull war is greater baggage than anything Hillary has done
stay tuned, you'll see what I'm talking about in June.
I think your right NeoConIV, Hillary doesn't have a shot. She not really that popular among democrats, and she's even less popular among non-democrats than Kerry was. If Clinton is the candidate, the Republicans win in a landslide, and the Democrats know this. , I'm a liberal democrat, and I don't even like her. The main reasons that people here in New York voted for her for Senate were that she has name recognition and the alternatives were crappy. I can see Gore before I can see her.
FWIW, most of the "chatter" that I've heard about HRC running has been from Republicans. Their having wet-dreams about campaigning against her.
the day a black woman runs for president on the republican ticket is the day a black woman runs for president on the democratic party. aka never in your lifetime
neocon,aggy,mfd et all would sooner quit the party that betrayed them than vote for condi
Spoken like a true liberal without a proper world view or historical perspective.bull war
As for Condi, right now I'd have to say she'd have my vote.
To put things in "historical perspective," conservatives were among the staunchest opponents of US foreign intervention prior to the cold war era. Ain't that a trip.
Why is it blood on Rice's hands? and why is it a "bullshot" war? Could you elaborate and not just spew without some reasoning?
I tend to be a liberal Dem...most of the time....but Hillary is just not a good candidate.
As for voting for Rice or not.....2008 is till a ways off and many things can happen....I would give her serious consideration at this point though.....I would like to know more on how she stands on other issues than foreign policy.
Rice would be a cute candidate for the obvious reasons, but when you have a John McCain sitting in your stable, you have to run him. He would have been the right choice in 2000, and he will be in 2008.
If the GOP wanted to go for some kind of Bush regime and really push Condi, it wouldn't surprise me to see McCain run on a Dem ticket and win in a landslide.
john mccain will be 72 in 2008 making him the oldest president ever. his time was in 2000 but unfortunately the republicans stole it from him
Whoa!
Cheryl, here are a few links with some good info:
http://www.americansforrice.com/Issues.htm
Good running blog here:
http://www.condipundit.com/
I'd vote for Rice.
McCain is no Republican.
Condi will get hammered for the Iraq War baggage.
Hillary supported the Iraq war too, i.e. she voted approval in the Senate, while Condi really had no say.
I agree that McCain is the best choice that the Republicans have out there. He would probably win whether he ran as a Republican or a Democrat. However, the Republicans won't nominate him and I doubt that he'll run as a Democrat.
McCain will be too old to run in 2008. He'd be unlikely to survive two terms.
But if you like McCain, you'll probably like Chuck Hagel too.
I love you like a brother Joe, but dead wrong.
In case you weren't aware, McCain just caved to the democrats on judicial nominees. He just wiped away any hope of a prez bid in 2008. Trust me, this is going to hang over him like a plague...well, forever.
And Zell Miller is no Democrat.
i'd like to see a female president ... can't say i'm crazy about rice or clinton, though. i think race would play a role in rice's run, unfortunately. it'd be intersting to see if a state like, well, mine would back her. i'd like to hope that race or gender wouldn't play a role, but i'm not so optimistic.
also, i'd vote mccain if he ran.
Oh, race and gender will most definitely have some sort of effect.
My mother (who is white) is the first associate Methodist minister for a congregation in Houston - her senior pastor is a black man, and the least-ranking one with the least amount of experience (is graduating from seminary next week) is a white man. While the senior pastor has been there several years and my mother has been there longer than the second associate, some members of the congregation will only take communion from the second associate, or hire him for their weddings, etc. If this is the case in a church, I can guarantee it will have an effect on a presidential ballot. I would love to see a woman in the oval office, but I'd be wary to say that Americans are progressive enough to make that happen.
You'll post like the American people actually pick their party candidates. The NeoCons have no choice now but to run a candidate whose strings they can pull or they all go to jail. Its the Neocons in the administration and the NeoLib-controlled DLC that are pushing for a Hillary and Rice candidacy.
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