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No doubt about it. Replace Strickland with Nash, the no look pass out of bounds does not happen, and Spurs beat Blazers in 1990.
A little something for whottt in here:
Robinson knows no way to keep Duncan down
Paola Boivin
The Arizona Republic
May. 25, 2005 12:00 AM He knows Tim Duncan as well as anyone.
The elbows.
The footwork.
"The consistency. He's an assassin. He'll work and work until he gets something right, and he'll be relentless at it. He's incredible."
It is just hours before tip-off of Game 2 of the Western Conference finals and Texas' most famous minister, David Robinson, is settling in at his San Antonio home to watch Must See TD. Even for a man whose post-basketball life is filled with playing carpool dad and building and running a school for underprivileged children, Robinson says this series has his attention.
It may also have something to do with the fact that he's now an investor in the team.
Robinson laughs when asked what the Suns can do to stop Duncan.
"The thing about Tim is you're not going to stop him," Robinson said. "If you cut one thing off, he'll do another thing. He'll shoot jumpers all night long, but if you get up on him, he'll make great passes.
"If I had to coach against him, I would just do everything I can to get the ball out of his hands. The more touches he gets, the more he gets into a rhythm and look out . . . "
It turns out Robinson's analysis was right on the money. Early on in Tuesday's 111-108 loss, the Suns were effective at keeping the ball out of Duncan's hands. They fell short in the fourth quarter, and Duncan made them pay.
In the first half, the Spurs forward was 1 for 7 with five points. In the fourth quarter alone, he was 5 for 8 for 14 points and was a force in the final minutes. Duncan is the biggest reason the Spurs head to San Antonio with a 2-0 series lead.
"You get the ball in his hands and he just makes the right decisions," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said.
For much of this game, the Suns were effective against the two-time MVP. Their defense was focused on keeping the ball away from Duncan, as opposed to defending him once he got his hands on the ball. That's where teams get into trouble, because Duncan is so strong and so smart that he'll make a great offensive move and score or he'll pass it to an open teammate and the Spurs will benefit from the same result.
The Suns were also more aggressive inside than in Game 1, and with 8:14 remaining in the third quarter, Duncan found himself with four fouls. The Suns outscored the Spurs in the paint 58-52 on Tuesday after being outscored 62-40 in the paint in the first game.
But the difference came down the stretch, and Spurs coach Gregg Popovich credited Duncan "with leadership when it counted."
"We always talk about playing 48 minutes," Duncan said afterward. "Even though we didn't play well early, we knew we had to stay with it."
"That's the kind of guy he is," Robinson said. "He'll never quit. We used to play video games and I used to just kill him. He's one of those plodding guys who says, 'I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to figure it out.' In the end he was just killing me."
As it got closer to tip-off, Robinson's thoughts turned to Steve Nash. Robinson admires teams that communicate well, that put individual desires aside for a common goal.
He sees that in the Suns and appreciates how much Nash has had to do with it.
"I think how if I had Steve Nash early in my career it would have been a world of difference," Robinson said."I'm very impressed. If you had to pick the guy who was most valuable to a team, it was definitely him. He made them a championship contender."
Nash did his best to even this series Tuesday. He finished with 29 points and 15 assists.
He didn't have an answer for Duncan, though. Nobody did.
"Really, there are no answers," Robinson said.
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No doubt about it. Replace Strickland with Nash, the no look pass out of bounds does not happen, and Spurs beat Blazers in 1990.
and detroit to earn their first le (spurs handily swept detroit that year)
If Sean doesnt stop and continues his cut to the basket the Spurs would have won the game with a Ninja dunk. who in the right mind stops cutting to the basket?
YES!!!! It was not all Rod's fault!!!
Yeah, when you start a cut, you're supposed to go all the way.
"I think how if I had Steve Nash early in my career it would have been a world of difference," Robinson said. "I'm very impressed. If you had to pick the guy who was most valuable to a team, it was definitely him. He made them a championship contender."
YOU MEAN HE IS BETTER THEN AJ
OUCH AJ
DROB speaks the truth, anyway never knew he liked playin video games....at least nash doesnt flop on the sidelines
duh.
Nash > Avery???? wow thats a relevation.
Suprised David would say that though.
If Robinson had had Steve Nash early in the Admiral's career the Spurs would have had a 12 year old starting point guard...and it still would have been better.
DRob probably knew this back in '98-99 when he first practiced with TD.
DRob in his prime against TD would be a sight to see.
I think DRob was referring more to Del Negro / Strickland (early in his career), not Avery.
For all the Avery humpers, now we know what DRob dreams of at night. Nash coupled with DRob's athleticism, size, quickness, explosiveness would make Nash - Stoudamire look like a poor imitation on the pick and roll.
Avery did a good job in the system he was in.For all the Avery humpers
Now how he wouldve done in pop's system with worse defense than Brent Barry?? Who knows.
DROB was a rare player who was sadly stuck on decent Spurs teams, but not great teams until AJ & Sean matured & their game too & TD came in.
If DROB had a 2nd Star on his team & a good 3rd player we would have won les before TD arrived. Rodman helped a great deal, but DROB still had to do majority of scoring.
Amare has nada on DROB, DROB top 5 greatest BBall athletes in NBA history!
Amare is the modern day version of David Robinson, at least on offense...Drob knows it...he's probably gets a big smile on his face thinking about what he could have done with a guy like Nash getting him the ball(Shaq probably thinks about it too)
Put Steve Nash with Amare and Amare becomes upstoppable...with the way Nash sets him up...
Don't remember the old Drob...the young one lead the NBA in slam dunks 3 years in a row, and was quite possibly the fastest guy in the NBA...
Drob was good enough to win a scoring le, with no PG, I mean no ing PG, not nada, zip, zilch...No Avery, no Strickland....no real PG. Vinny D
It's funny that DRob finally ended up getting his les as the defensive anchor on a halfcourt team...
Because he began his career as a freak 7'1 guy that was usually the fastest guy on the court... who ran like a mofo.
It also would have helped Drob if he had some guards that could stretch the D...he never really had that except for his first couple of years in the league...and Strickland didn't exactly have a legendary J either...but Willie was pretty good back then....things might have been different(for the Admiral, Willie, and the Spurs) if only Willie hadn't gotten hurt.
But no one was going to win a le with AJ and Vinny D as their starting guards(unless their names were Duncan and Robinson, together)...it's the truth.
Yeah, that was my point.
Although I'm sure DRob didn't mean it as a slight to anyone, especially AJ, it kinda came out that way.
And those of you saying Sean should have made the cut are absolutely right. I've been saying that since the day after The Pass.
It was a a stupid pass to make, in the OT of a game 7 against a 60+ win team, on what looked to be the last posession they would have that game. It was a dumb play.
Elliott also should have hit his FT's in game 1 of the 95 WCF.
And Drob is just being honest, he played with guards virtually his entire career, it's the truth, and only homers don't admit it...being truthful...kinda like AJ thought he was being when he said the Spurs were sending a boy to do a man's job
AJ never had any problems holding his tongue..why should Drob? AJ fans think AJ is a badass for making comments like that...
I think DRob also said Brent Barry sucked in the regular season and needed to man up in the playoffs.
Drob would be right about that mostly...except for the man-up thing...
I don't think DRob likes the soft label that even many Spursfans give him as they suck AJ off...I think he'd be careful about throwing that label around..Drob's smart you see
Out of curiosity, why did the Spurs lose 3-1 to Golden State the following year after the Portland debacle in 1990?
Who stepped up or didn't that playoffs?
In the first game? Nearly everyone...the Spurs blew the Warriors off the court with their running game.
IIRC, Drob, Willie and I believe Elliott(it could have been Strickland or TC though) all scored 30+points in the first game...
After that Nellie busted out one of his patented small ball lineups double teaming the bigs and denied Drob the ball and turned it into a perimeter game...
Nellie's perimeter players were Run TMC....
IIRC correctly TC wasn't very good in that series...but it was a long time ago and I have blocked out a lot of that series...
It's kind of funny though...that Spurs team was pretty much a running team...and it's coach was Larry Brown...and one of it's assistants was Greg Poppovich...now there is a good chance those two will meet in the finals and their calling card is half court defense oriented teams...
And you know what else is weird? That season nearly everyone expected...the Spurs, and the Pistons, to meet in the finals...
Seems to me like Drob's most talented teams were in his first two seasons as a pro 1989-1991. He didn't have a championship calibur team until 1994-95, and after that never really had one until Duncan came.
I wonder how Drob might have done with some solid support from 1991-1995?
Which one, Drob's rookie season or second?
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