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    To end the third and begin the fourth, Pop went without TD, TP or Manu. At the time, I thought he was crazy. I can't remember a time he's done that this year in a hotly contested game against a quality team. But Pop ended up being right. By resting Manu a few more minutes then, he made sure Manu had his legs at the end ... and that was obviously important.

    However, down the stretch, Pop's timeout management was really confusing. With a minute to go, Pop put Duncan on the bench for a defensive stop because the Nuggets went ultra small. The Spurs get a stop with 45 seconds remaining and hold a two-point lead. With Nene fouled out and the Nuggets using the extremely defensive challenged Harrington at center against Duncan, how does Pop not call a timeout there to feed the hot hand against a horrible defender?

    Then after Harrington misses the free throw that could have tied it with 25 seconds to go, I don't understand why Pop called a timeout there. Manu had the ball, the Nuggets had to foul ... what more could he want?

    And finally, Pop not calling a timeout with McDyess inbounding and the Spurs up by one with seven seconds to go was another headscratcher. First of all, McDyess is a bad passer. Secondly, the easiest way to lose in that situation is to turn it over under the opponent's basket. Calling a timeout there to get a better passer and get it at halfcourt should have been a no-brainer.

    I'll definitely take the win but Pop made some discussion worthy decisions in that second half . . .

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    Telll me about it

    IDK why he stuck with GH

    Manu bailed Pop out

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    Question the subs utions all you want but the last part is re ed imo. Pop shouldn't have to be the one to call timeout when Mcdyess is bringing in the ball. Mcdyess is an old vet who should see if he can catch Manu open (which happens a lot when defenses can't get set) and is more than capable to call timeout himself if he can't get Manu open (which he should have done)

    Bonehead play by Dice.

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    I was wondering about the Dice subs ution myself considering how Duncan had been beasting.

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    As for the part about calling a timeout with 25 seconds left when Manu got the rebound... I think he might have wanted to clear things up on the defensive side of the court for when Denver ends up getting the ball back (If they didn't call a timeout). Only thing I can think of since he was really working a lot with the white board in that specific timeout.

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    I was wondering about the Dice subs ution myself considering how Duncan had been beasting.
    That too

    A very WTF moment

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    Dyess's pass was right on the money. Manu the great completely wiffed that pass. Sorry, but we all shoudl expect manu to catch that pass. What happened was Manu felt the pressure from behind and was trying to draw a foul. Flopping is very much a part of manu's game, and that was a case of when it really hurt the spurs.

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    Gotta agree. At one point during the game Pop for some reason had Bonner on Melo and Neal on Melo as well...WTF?!?!

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    i thought he was crazy in the first quarter when duncan was hittin all his shots, then they stop feedin him

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    I'll give you another one: On a night when Denver was not closing out on Bonner, and right after he nailed a three and we had momentum, he pulls him.

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    In Manu we STILL trust! rayray2k8's Avatar
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    That last play ended up almost costing the spurs. Spurs survived the night in Denver.
    Was sure they were gonna lose especially coming off a back to back.
    But there's not such thing as a 'bad' win.

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    That's a pretty impressive list of WTF Pop, and yet we beat Denver on the road

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    I thought he played with the lineup too much during the last couple of minutes. Tim being taken out with a minute left was not a good call, no matter who the Nuggets were fielding. Tim was playing well on both ends, and his decision making is something to rely on. Also, Idk that McDyess is so much faster than Duncan that he's a substantial enough upgrade against the smallball lineup to make the switch (given Duncan's play for the night).

    I decided that it was okay and that Pop had set a maximum for Tim's minutes tonight, and that was good enough reasoning for me. But after the switch happened again later (with RJ for Duncan) I thought that Tim going in and out of the game was strategy. If it was, then it wasn't a very good one, and Pop should just let Tim close out the final minute next time.


    But regular season games are the times to experiment and learn, so oh well.

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    I'll give you another one: On a night when Denver was not closing out on Bonner, and right after he nailed a three and we had momentum, he pulls him.

    He's heading Spurstalk. Play bonner less.

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    As for the part about calling a timeout with 25 seconds left when Manu got the rebound... I think he might have wanted to clear things up on the defensive side of the court for when Denver ends up getting the ball back (If they didn't call a timeout). Only thing I can think of since he was really working a lot with the white board in that specific timeout.
    That's what i figured. It was more of a defensive timeout.

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    I fully agreed and praised Pop's early 4th Q subs utions. Clearly the goal was ensuring energy to close the game. It worked to perfection.

    I think Pop pulled Duncan out to give him a breather. A quickie breather. Probably figured Duncan was due for a miss and just had to keep our slim lead for the final possessions and Duncan could go back in.

    No idea why Pop called that timeout after Harrington's free throws.

    I think that bad Dice pass happened so fast Pop was caught off guard. Shoulda called one there.

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    How many times did we see Frye pop that 3 ball because Duncan couldn't get out there on him in time. Exactly what Pop didn't want happening with Al Harrington. Whether or not it's the right call is a different story but his intentions were very clear on what he was trying to do..... at least IMO.

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    - His lineups in the 1st half were very questionable and helped put the Spurs in a hole..the small ball was understandable, given Denver's lineup on the floor, but the combination of players for the small ball was very questionable..

    - The Bonner-Blair frontcourt doesn't work, I thought this was already an established point that everybody figured out last year..when McDyess entered the game in the 2nd half, the difference was huge..Blair-Bonner should never be on the floor at the same time, unless there's absolutely no choice at all..

    - I thought he played Gary Neal too much, especially during one particular stretch during the game..

    I didn't mind anything he did in the 4th for the most part..the pass from McDyess could be blamed on both of them..Pop should have known not to trust the worst passer on the team, and Dice should know when the play is too risky to throw that pass..

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    How many rings have you won LJ? STFU. [/Tpark]

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    I dont get players not moving on the baseline. Don't they understand they can move up and down the damn baseline?

    That pass was on McDyess and Manu.

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    How many rings have you won LJ? STFU. [/Tpark]
    Seriously?

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    I dont get players not moving on the baseline. Don't they understand they can move up and down the damn baseline?
    No ... that would clearly help getting the ball inbounded.

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    Also when Harrington came in, Duncan did get the ball immediately and pretty much played him pretty soft and settled for a bad shot.

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    I don't know...If I remember correctly Tim got burned a few times defensively towards the end when they had the smaller lineup and it seemed the Knicks intended to take advantage of that. Swapping Tim out for one play under those cir stances seems like a valid move. Pop did wait a bit longer than I thought he should have to bring him back in though.

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    Question the subs utions all you want but the last part is re ed imo. Pop shouldn't have to be the one to call timeout when Mcdyess is bringing in the ball. Mcdyess is an old vet who should see if he can catch Manu open (which happens a lot when defenses can't get set) and is more than capable to call timeout himself if he can't get Manu open (which he should have done)

    Bonehead play by Dice.
    You are re ed.

    He had Ginobili open it's not McDyess's fault Manu fumbled the pass off his weak right hand. McDyess put the pass right on the money, I gaurantee you if it had been Ginobili's left hand he would have caught it no problem.

    I don't know if you ever noticed this or not, but Manu is a very left hand dominant player.

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