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    Somebody please explain Pop's logic of putting three bigs on the last play with basically no 3pt shooters to space the floor (Bonner doesnt count in the 4th).

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    he bet all-in for Manu
    Doc knew it

    ed up the play

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    Too bad Manu wasn't looking to pass to a wide open Dice when his man left him to double.

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    you're not gonna get the call on the road, usually. manu was almost able to get off the 3pt to be honest.

    i think pop really wanted a 3, didn't want OT on a b2b.

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    Here's the logic:

    4 rings

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    Somebody please explain Pop's logic of putting three bigs on the last play with basically no 3pt shooters to space the floor (Bonner doesnt count in the 4th).

    Bonner is a three point shooter and was guarded closely.

    McDyess was wide open by the basket.

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    I think Manu completly blew off the play. There was some reason that Mcdyess was out there, unless Ginobili was supposed to force it high to Duncan, and throw it down to Mcdyess for the easy lay-up.

    Dyess can shoot those open 3's also I've seen him before games knock him down I rather have seen that also if he is open, but they should of went for the tie, the momentum would of swinged the spurs way in overtime.

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    Yea I agree... the Celtics would have felt like after that stunning comeback to tie in the last minute and I believe the Spurs would have been flying around reinvigorated in the OT.

    Manu... ... why didn't you dish off the Dice he was so open, Celtics were overloaded to the right.

    Timmy seals his man Manu could even bounce pass and Dice is jamming home the tie.

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    Manu's foot was on the line on the last shot, so it would've been a two anyways. Therefore, there was absolutely no benefit to him trying a contested shot from the perimeter with a wide open layup there for the taking.

    Pretty sure Manu just couldn't see Dice rolling to the basket over the double-team, but still frustrating.

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    pretty stupid of manu to take that shot

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    Manu's foot was on the line on the last shot, so it would've been a two anyways. Therefore, there was absolutely no benefit to him trying a contested shot from the perimeter with a wide open layup there for the taking.

    Pretty sure Manu just couldn't see Dice rolling to the basket over the double-team, but still frustrating.
    if tp missed the open dice
    they would be 15 threads about it

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    if tp missed the open dice
    they would be 15 threads about it
    That's silly, ducks.

    Everybody knows Parker never looks to pass anyways.

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    Manu's foot was on the line on the last shot, so it would've been a two anyways. Therefore, there was absolutely no benefit to him trying a contested shot from the perimeter with a wide open layup there for the taking.

    Pretty sure Manu just couldn't see Dice rolling to the basket over the double-team, but still frustrating.
    There was a perceived benefit. That's how the players work. They don't get the benefit of Captain Hindsight.

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    we need another closer, teams know ginoboli will always take that last play

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    if tp missed the open dice
    they would be 15 threads about it
    You mean the guy who hit the side of the backboard on a wide open 15 second three point attempt? Is that the same guy who turned the ball over 3 times before the tipoff and, at last report, turned it over again just before boarding the plane?

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    We played like the whole game. . It shouldn't of came down to the last shot anyways.

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    IT WAS A FOUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    edit: oh you meant the actual play called,,,,,,,, nevermind

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    should of had more 3pt shooters out there....like neal and hill

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    They've actually run that play before. Boston did a great job on it with the help defense.
    The way that play is supposed to be, is Manu pretending to get the ball on the inbound side of the court, then running all the way around to the other side to take an open three, while his defender is picked by the big in the middle, in this case Dice. The problem was that the guy that was guarding Dice figured it out and started to help on Manu. When Tim couldn't inbound to the ball to Manu, the actual play broke off. We obviously didn't have any more timeouts then, so we had to improvise.

    Props to the Celts. It looks like they scouted that pretty well.

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    There was a perceived benefit. That's how the players work. They don't get the benefit of Captain Hindsight.
    Fair enough. Easy to call that pass from the replay; much harder in action.

    Still, Manu rushed that shot. As soon as he got doubled should have been a sign that someone had to be open, and the Spurs had a few ticks left to find a better look.

    Either way, didn't happen. Sometimes you just gotta give the ball to the closer and go out guns blazing, for better or worse.

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    i think pop really wanted a 3, didn't want OT on a b2b.
    That's a 3 point play, yes

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    They've actually run that play before. Boston did a great job on it with the help defense.
    The way that play is supposed to be, is Manu pretending to get the ball on the inbound side of the court, then running all the way around to the other side to take an open three, while his defender is picked by the big in the middle, in this case Dice. The problem was that the guy that was guarding Dice figured it out and started to help on Manu. When Tim couldn't inbound to the ball to Manu, the actual play broke off. We obviously didn't have any more timeouts then, so we had to improvise.

    Props to the Celts. It looks like they scouted that pretty well.
    I thought there might have been too much time for a play designed for a catch and shoot.

    With 8 sec. left, i don't see why Pop doesnt draw up an iso at the top of the key for Manu, a la Milwaukee game, and spread the floor with shooters.

    didnt agree with the play call and i think Pop is the best at designing plays out of timeouts.

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    I thought there might have been too much time for a play designed for a catch and shoot.

    With 8 sec. left, i don't see why Pop doesnt draw up an iso at the top of the key for Manu, a la Milwaukee game, and spread the floor with shooters.

    didnt agree with the play call and i think Pop is the best at designing plays out of timeouts.
    Maybe they just thought Manu would draw a lot of people and then he could just pass inside for an easy two. I don't know. You can definitely see Duncan trying to make the pass to Manu then pulling back when he realizes he's covered. That's when he inbounds to Dice.

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    I'm just thinking there should have been a contingency plan, in the event Manu got double teamed in that scenario.

    So when he did, he would know exactly where to go with the ball, like a hot read.

    Which would have been dropping it off to Dice, since his man stepped up to double, everyone else was on the right side of the floor.

    Granted so easy for us to know this now...

    Silver lining is that we can come up with a counter for the future.

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    The play in certain areas worked well.

    Bonner set the back pick on Daniels and went to the inbounds side as a decoy.

    The Celtics defended it well.

    Props to them.

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