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Opinions are withheld until i see them play. Who's starting on the pg. I understand felton won't take the backseat but is lawson ok with that?
I love hearing the thoughts/opinions of posters around here. What do you guys think of the Nuggets trade?
I am glad to see some ball movement back
The team has no true star but they are deep with role players who could still make the playoffs if they gel quickly.
Noone has the killer instinct like Melo (unless your talking JR, but that was bit below the belt)
Anyway, your thoughts?
Opinions are withheld until i see them play. Who's starting on the pg. I understand felton won't take the backseat but is lawson ok with that?
It depends on other moves they might make, but Felton, Affallo, Chandler, Martin, Nene with Ty, Gallo, Birdman, JR... A good enough coach could get this team to the playoffs. But Karl's style tends to need a high volume shooter, they should be ok if this means more Nene, but I doubt it will, and it'll probably just be more JR... That isn't a good thing.
Chauncey is gone
he was their spiritual leader
nah, i dont think they are powerful without a leader
Gallo will be a stud. Chandler already is, but he can even still get better. They both have star like potential, I'm a big fan of both.
Nuggets problem is that they haven't been committed to play defense in a long time. If new players can convince the team to play some D, they will be better than with Melo.
Glad to hear Nuggets traded one of the biggest EGO in the NBA. Sick of rumouring about drama since half year in every, in every game with Nuggets. Wish you players with less tattoos and more brain. Word up.
Afflalo, Chandler, Felton, Gallinari, Harrington, Lawson, Nene and JR are all scoring in double digits this season. That's 8 players. The scoring of some players will most likely go down, but some players could also step up and show that one of those guys can be the star of this team.
I still don't know what will the starting lineup look like but I like how their roster looks. They've got 2 good players for all positions.
Felton/Lawson
Afflalo/Smith
Chandler/Gallinari/Forbes
Martin/Harrington
Nene/Andersen/Mozgov
Now that's a really good lineup. No stars but a damn good team. I also think it's time that that punk ass JR shows his real potential.
I say they make the Playoffs.
This looks like the deepest team in the NBA.. only thing now is who is going to up their game a level and be the star?
I'm not sure Gali, Chandler and Aafalo will gel
I expect more defense, assists and fast breaks. Definitely a better team to watch when you just wanna appreciate the sport.
I don't believe the talk about them falling out of the playoffs. Those guys that just arrived look like they want to show they're worth something and will be part of the team. Tonight's win against Memphis was huge for tie-breaker reasons too.
Solid surrounding talent without a true star = a very mediocre team. The new Nuggets are basically the current Houston Rockets.
Losing Billups may be a bigger blow than losing Carmello, IMO. Any discipline the team had was locked up with him. And even he couldn't keep them from losing composure in a lot of tough fourth quarters. I don't think any of the new personalities will be strong enough to influence that. They've got a lot of talent, and they'll lose a lot of games.
They will probably still make the playoffs, just because Utah, Phoenix, and Houston are weak too.
I think the Nuggets did themselves a favor long term. You're not going to win an NBA championship if Carmelo Anthony is your best player. And there was no way for them to get better with him there.
Now it depends on how good a GM Ujiri is.
We all know that true star players don't come around very often. Despite getting a boatload of assets in exchange for Carmelo, which was a good thing, the Nuggets no longer have a star player to build around. They will need that in order to ascend back to the top of the conference. Until then, I predict long years on that "treadmill of mediocrity."
If a leader steps up, and/or if they show some maturity and fall in line behind their coaching staff, they can be better than they were before. Their backwards-fighting pussy skills, however, have been greatly diminished.
All things considered, Nuggets got good value in return. Now if they can just get rid of the rest of the trash, namely Martin and Smith, that has contributed to their culture of mediocrity and create new team culture then they'll be in good shape. A front court of Nene-Danilo-Chandler isn't a bad core to build around...
+1
This one of the things many teams don't get when signing their franchise players. They should always ask themselves: Can we win a championship if this guy is my best player? With Melo the answer is clear: No. Unless you have several other stars playing along side him and one of them being the leader (like Billups a few years ago).
Now the Knicks have the same problem, but doubled. If you ask the same question with either Melo or Amar'e, the answer is still no. Having them together improves the chances of course, but you would still need a very solid team, a third star being the actual leader. They have ran out of assets to trade with and I think they also out of cap room (not sure though) to sign that 3rd star in FA.
Oh and about the Nuggets, they won't win a championship this year but they do look good considering the situation they were. If they commit to defense and one the quasi stars becomes a leader they could be a poor's man Pistons from the mid decade.
The Nuggets are really deep; lot of talent and size.
And Nene can go back to the PF position
I think they have enough talent on the wing. They have a great center in Nene and a decent backup in Birdman but let's be real, their PF rotation sucks ass. Martin is old and was never too good to begin with, Harrington is a black hole chucker. They need a top talent at the PF slot to be their leader. Not really sure who is out there or available, maybe they could trade for Randolph? He would be a good 20/10 player to plug into the starting lineup. But then again, this team needs to be playing defense, and I don't really see Randolph as a leader, more like a glorified 2nd option. As far as defense goes, they have the capabilities and athleticism, they just need a better coaching system/staff. Karl is basically Don Nelson.
They don't have a star... so they're just meh...
They need someone who can step up in clutch situations and deliver every single day..
They have a lot of pieces.. so they can afford to lose a few in exchange for a star.. but there's definitely progress, they weren't going anywhere with Anthony.
They had two stars not long ago, and they were worse. They've got plenty of guys who are capable of making a play without having to put up 28 shots a game.
Sorry. I never thought Melo had a killer instinct. He's a fantastic offensive player and a decent rebounder but he gets easily frustrated when things don't go his way. He'll put up monster numbers in NY but I'm not sure he can take the Knicks any farther than an Amare Stoudemire can.
The Nuggets may have gotten better as a team but it could take some time to tell. They lost a bit of their iden y when Melo left.
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