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Pop doesn't call stuff for him. It's not his fault.
In the Parker injury thread, I said that Duncan and Jefferson would have to elevate their games more than any other players on the roster, if the Spurs wanted to maintain a solid record..
What are realistic expectations of Jefferson during this stretch without Parker?..
He has only taken 3 shots so far..is RJ at fault for not being aggressive enough, or should Pop be looking towards him a lot more often?..
Pop doesn't call stuff for him. It's not his fault.
He's been driving.....getting mauled/pushed usually and then being forced to pass out.
RJ can't create for himself, he can't take guys one on one. With TP out he'll suffer.
Again, much like last year, Jefferson seems content just being in the game while not doing much of anything. He's a ghost out there.
Whoever was stubbornly calling for PnR with Hill 80% of the time is at fault..tbh
You cannot expect Manu to shoulder the whole load here. Calling plays for Hill was the right thing to do because whatever funk he is in he needs to get out of. Running Manu to death will only further our chances at winning in the playoffs. We have to be very careful on how we handle Manu right now.
Jefferson is not to blame here. Hard to really affect the game offensively when the ball can never make it to you, and when it does, it was tipped by a defender. That makes it pretty difficult to get anything done.
I would like to see RJ shoot more. He can't really create for himself off the dribble and has problems getting around his defender but he hit some nice jump shots in the game tonight and would like to see him at least take those more often.
RJ just sucks.......PERIOD...!
I was actually hoping for a lot more 4 down tonight once Gasol was ejected. It probably would have cut down the turnovers and relaxed the pressure on the perimeter.
If possible force the switch so it is Arthur defending Duncan. That could have opened up penetration because their shot blocker has to stay at home.
I agree. I think Tim should get the ball more and work the offense around him more until Tony comes back.
That's just making excuses for someone who has the propensity of disappearing in games. Jefferson has too many of these type of games where he does absolutely nothing on offense or defense. For 's sake, even Mike Fin gave more effort in his second year here.
Good lord, if thats the best thought you can muster stay out of the thread.
No one has said run Manu into the ground.
You can run several different sets that aren't correlated with an initial PnR from Manu or Hill.
You can give the ball to Tim on the block (4down).
You can run isolation plays for R.J on the elbow/13 feet out, especially with Bonner on the floor with Tim or Dyess (Bonner would spread the floor at the 3 point line and Tim would float around the opposite elbow; which would consequently free up the paint for R.J in these isolation scenarios where he can have the option to shoot or easily get to the line or basket.
You can exploit the pinch post option with Blair/Duncan and the wings cutting off of it.
Those are just a few.
But Pop just stubbornly ran the PnR to death tonight with Hill. Why? I don't know.
Were you watching the same game as I was? The guards were having a difficult time getting the ball to RJ. I am not making excuses for him, but it is hard to do anything when you cannot get the ball in any sort of rythym because it is tipped, low pass, or the ball is stolen before it even gets to you.
If you have played basketball before, you understand that recieving the ball in the right spot opens up your options. Defenders often pressure once they see the pass is low, or it gives them the time they need to close out. They already know that if you pull up it won't be in rythym, and that your best option is to drive, or pass. It is hard to do anything offensively if you have a defender who knows what they are doing.
RJ did pass up about 2-3 shots that were open and cut off a couple of his drives short.
He also needs to realize that he needs to be a little more assertive as well when we're short handed.
Grow the up dudette if you don't understand simple TiC.
I have played basketball ball (at the college level). And what I see from Jefferson is the same half ass intensity that he showed much of last year. It has more to do with his effort than getting the ball at the right spot. He does nothing absolutely worthwhile on the court. He just doesn't do anything particularly well to make up for he's lack of scoring. He is not a very good defender. Not really adept at rebounding. He isn't a very good slasher in the half court set (creating shots for others). Seriously, what the does he do that is worthwhile???
That's a bit of an overreaction.
is it really?
Who cares..... You give 109 points and over 50% shooting AGAIN, your going to lose.
wasn't just rj other spurs players weren't doing anything either....george hill was awful tonight
My concerns with RJ are the fact that he thrived when the Spurs were playing at a faster pace and style more conducive to regular season success rather than playoff success.
If you look at the team's pace it's actually pretty damn close to what it was last year. The difference is that number looks better as the rest of the league has slowed from a year ago.
RJ isn't the same player he was last year. I am much more optimistic about him coming through when the opportunities are there - he's ready to finish now from the spot-up and in his sporadic, infrequent touches/opportunities. But his talent and ability to really thrive on this team to a degree that it helps the team's collective benefit is greatly diminished when the pace is slower and the opportunities are fewer.
Really seems like you're going to see some great nights in terms of efficiency - maybe hitting on 8-11 FG and 4-5 3P - and other nights he'll barely register on the stat sheet offensively. He's just gonna have to board and put all of that 6-7 frame in the right spots defensively and hope that that's enough.
I've got much respect for RJ these days. What he did this summer and how he turned it around at this stage of his career, that ain't no small thing. But the fact remains that his actual talent and skillset isn't best served being on this type of team. He's shown signs of being able to be good enough to make it work, which is more than I could have said or hoped for a year ago, but that fact remains.
I'm just hoping he can have one of those hot, efficient stretches he's had during the year in the postseason. Just need him to playing well at the right time - and he's given me reason to believe this year that he's more than capable of doing so.
He keeps Luke Walton distracted.
(couldn't help it)
Seriously though, I do agree that he needs to assert himself at times. I think he is scared to screw up. He knows that if he plays outside of the system, and it doesn't work out, Pop won't hesitate to bench him. At least offensively. Defensively is where he really needs to assert himself. It is the only time he can go balls to the wall without fear of being benched. I hope he will understand this come playoff time.
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