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they aren't contractually restricted from play overseas. they're grown men and can do whatever they want with their bodies and lives, and it's not anyone's business but theirs.
It sure is nice when everybody is healthy, though, I'll grant you that.
The Spurs have the best record in NBA this year because Manu and Parker finally gave a rest to their (since I been drinking beer all day, I will say it) bull commitment to international ball during the off-season-- their commitment to national team play over their professional commitment to the Spurs, their commitment to good health and longevity, their commitment to professionalism, and their good faith commitment to us as their goddamn buying-their-jerseys/ reading-the-sportspage-every- ing-day/ road-tripping/ season-ticket-holding/ price-gouging-scalper-buying/ nose-bleed-sitting/ face-painting/ five-dollar-hotdog-at-the-arena-buying/ car-sticker-sportin'/ baby-naming/ tattoo-getting/ spurstalking fools of a fans. These two have alternated limping through the regular seasons and playoffs to the detriment of the Spurs season after season, with the long-awaited exception of this year.
Finally.
No summer ball this year and lo' and behold, best record in the league. Speaks for itself. Dirty mother ers.
they aren't contractually restricted from play overseas. they're grown men and can do whatever they want with their bodies and lives, and it's not anyone's business but theirs.
It sure is nice when everybody is healthy, though, I'll grant you that.
100% agree.
The overseason bull is exactly that.
They can. But I don't like it. So I'm ranting.
Is it the difference this year? My multi-beer theory is yeeeesh.
great theory. problem is, the 03/05/07 championships all came in years were anywhere from 1 to 2 of the big 3 were in summer compe ion (including duncan).
then there is the fact that the last 2 championships were won by a team with its two best players (kobe and pau) playing international ball.
so much for that.
Anywhere from 1 to 2? So like 1.5, or more like 1.7?
Well the Spurs have been aware of their intentions when they have signed their contracts and extensions. I'm pretty sure the Spurs were happy to sign a $50 mil not fully guaranteed extension with Tony.
Good point. This should shut those idiots the up. And Manu will be playing ball this summer (Olympic games Qualifiers) and if they do qualify, he will play again next year in London.
So suck it up, assholes.
Congratulations. This might be the stupidest argument ive in seen in a long time regarding international play. Season ticket holders, Peter Holt and Popovich have no business worrying about whether or not the Spurs best players are resting during the offseason?
Of course they'd be worried about possible injuries, but they've been perfectly happy to sign extensions with both players, knowing about this.
Some people are fun when they drink. You're not, quit drinking.
Manu had his best year ever after playing in the Olympics in '05 where he won the gold medal. Do you really think he would of developed like he did if he didn't play that Olympics and win? Like he said he's had years where he didn't play during the summer and still got injured too so it really doesn't matter.
And it's going to be more and more problematic (at least for Parker).
FIBA has a tendency to increase the number of international games played in the summer to generate more and more money. For example, the Eurobasket has expanded from 16 teams to 24 ones. Euobasket will be now up to 11 games in 18/19 days.
The result of that is FNT "season" could be 10 weeks long (July 12th-September 18th). If Spurs go to the final and there is no lockout, you can imagine the disaster...
Tony has called out FIBA in french newspaper on how they raise the number of NT games. He said that if it continues, NBA players will stop playing these games.
Telling these guys they can't play with their international teams is like telling a married man he can't have nights out with his friends anymore.
They might stay home but you've sapped their spirit. I just wish that they'd gotten it out of their systems already. They need to rest as they get older.
True but we got to admit that Manu is no longer 28 or 30. He's gonna be 34. And playing international ball in the summer takes an relevant affect to his game in the season. Although I don't buy the "professional commitment" over the "international bull " from the original thread started. Both are professional desitions and you stupid guy have to live with it.
These guys have an entire country looking up to them as gods. It isn't like here in the US where people don't really care because we have it well off for the most part, but when people like Manu become as successful worldwide as he is, playing for your country has a new meaning.
This season isn't a coincidence though, I'll agree, but calling summer ball BS is disrespectful and moronic.
We can only hope that the thread starter is wrong, as Manu and TP will both play this year and the next for their countries.
I got to say also that Kobe is 33 and not planing to quit the US team and i don't see lakers fans ing around all the time.
Kobe hasn't missed 25+ regular season games or an entire postseason since he started playing with the American team. If he ever does, you can be sure that the Laker fan base would object.
In the big picture, however, this whole discussion is moot. The players have every right to play and the Spurs knew about their plans before signing them to multiple contracts and extensions.
Manu and Tony have both been up front and public about their intentions to play for their NTs in 2011 and 2012. The Spurs didn't have to extend their contracts, but they did. End of story.
It kind of is our (or at least the Spurs') business.
NBA veterans need to take a break from playing compe ive basketball every once in a while whether its to heal injuries, work on your game, or just conserving mileage. International compe ion can take a lot of wear and tear since you're playing for your country and its people's pride; plus you just played a NBA season and playoffs.
Playing internationally in the summer is best for young talents that could use the experience like Kevin Durant and Co. showed this summer.
For what its worth the USA Team is also stacked with crazy talent so Kobe doesn't have to work as hard or sacrifice as much as international stars. Whereas Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili have to play like prime MVP's for their team to make up for the lack of overall team talent. I think there are quite a few Laker fans that aren't happy with all the mileage Kobe's got. some are pissed that he spent an hour shooting around and lifting weights after that recent Heat game.
It would be if there was something in their contracts about it.
When you make 10 plus mil a year, your obligation is to your team that pays that money. Not your national team. What i find so in offensive about that crap is that if these players had a clause in their deal that said they lose huge portions of their salary if they get hurt playing for their national teams, none of them would ever risk it. It is always about the money with athletes. Tell Tony he loses 50% of his 2012 salary if he gets hurt and see how motivated he is to play for France.. They make it an easy call for these guys because whether they break their necks or come back healthy as can be they still get paid. I hope in the future the international play gets seriously restricted contractually so teams like the Spurs don't have to pay 10 mil to a Tony Parker while he gimps around all year long thanks to his stupid national team..
You're a moron.
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