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He'll be fine. He's an important part of the rotation and needs to get in there. He wasn't abused against Phoenix, was he?
Where does he fit? I'm not sure you can even put him on the court. He'd get abused by Prince in the low blocks and can't chase Rip around screens. I don't see how he's going to get playing time without giving up a lot on the defensive end.
Am I missing something?
He'll be fine. He's an important part of the rotation and needs to get in there. He wasn't abused against Phoenix, was he?
Phoenix was perfect for him -- no perimeter D and a running game. It's completely the opposite going against Detroit. He'll have trouble finding a niche in this series.
I said he was going to have a monster Phoenix series. I just don't see it this series. Sure, the Spurs can try to match him up against Lindsey Hunter ... but even that isn't a great matchup for him.
How's Devin Brown feeling?
Glenn Robinson might be a major factor in this series. I think he'd matchup with Prince well.
I tentatively expect some fantastic things from Robinson in this series, too.
No Brent Barry and No Rasho Nesterovic
Both of them can help this team alot, just like they have the whole season... I think barry can get help defensively... I'll be the first to say that the pistons arent really of an offensive threat if we help barry.
Maybe Barry but if you put Nesterovic in there, Ben Wallace would be dominating the interior on defense because he isn't worried about Rasho being a scoring threat. If you put Horry in there he would either have to guard Duncan or Horry which is a tougher matchup for Ben Wallace.
Rasho will get playing time (but not as much as he would have against the Heat). He did a decent job in the last regular season game against the Pistons with Tim down he had 13 and 6. Ben had 8/9.
I'm sure he would score more because B. Wallace will be wondering in the paint trying to block shots from Parker and Ginobili. B. Wallace is a much better team defender but if you put Horry in there Ben Wallace can't stay in the paint waiting to block shots.
Detroit doesn't really double, from what I have seen. So I agree that Brent will be hard pressed to get open looks.
IMO, Barry should see some good PT (definitely not as big as Suns series) esp. with Devin's non-availability. He is just coming off a good series and there is no reason to believe he is going to stink against Pistons. As for him defending Prince, I don't think Prince is going to shoot the lights out because Barry will be in when Timmy and Nazr are on the court - so Prince cannot get away with whatever he can.
A lineup of Manu,Barry,Beno,Timmy,Nazr could make sense.
Yeah , you have to respect the defending champions' great D, but that's not a reason to undermine our offensive execution with any lineup.
Ben wallace never dominated a game when Rasho was with him...
I don't think you should make remarks on games you never watched..
You have to remember you are a MAvs fan.
I'd be interested in knowing Whottt's stance on this.
I mean defense and rebounding. Horry would force him to not camp in the paint and actually have to come out. This opens driving lanes for Parker and Ginobili. He would have to respect Horry's shooting or guard Duncan which takes Rasheed off Duncan.
My stance is that Barry won't get much PT in this series...
Pop logic dicates that when you play a a low scoring defense oriented team, instead of trying to get more offense...you play down to the compe ion by acting like they are the 96 Bulls and play players and a style of ball that makes it even harder to score...
So...Barry will get fewer minutes, Pop will go half court O and throw the advantage to the Pistons, when he should be wanting to run even more than he did against Phoenix...
Barry'll go back into the mode of 1-3 in 18-19 minutes...and people will go back to saying he's got no sac and is a choker, when our starting and all D lineups choke due to ty ball handling and stagnant O, and Barry doesn't see a meaningful minute in the 4th...
Against a great defensive team ball handling and offensive minded players should be at a premium...my hunch is that the Spurs will do just the opposite and try and grind it out against a team that is better at the grind it out game than they are...
In short...we have more versatility than the Pistons but we won't use it...we'll try to beat them with our old grinding style of play...something we are no longer the best in the NBA at...something the Pistons are just about the best in the NBA at.
It seems to me that in a defensive struggle offense becomes the swing factor...but not in SA...we try to put out the fire with gas.
The Pistons one weakness is team speed...they are not a good running team and they got owned by just about every running team they played this season, no matter how big the game was...I will be very happy if the Spurs try to attack that weakness...but I don't believe Pop will do that.
Pop has said the team will try to push the ball, so I expect them to try. If they gear up the running game, then Barry will get more burn... and I don't expect the Pistons to be able to match the point production. Whottt is correct, that Detroit's team speed doesn't match well and if they have to get into a shooting match to keep up with production, well, that's what words like 'avalanche' were made for.
The big obstacle is, though, that the Pistons have been handling the ball very well and not turning it over. But pushing it regardless will help, even just feints. It will force them to go away from offensive boards.
Pop was mentionning Glenn. If Barry can't handle the job I agree with POP.
But I do not see the stagnat offens because spurs will want that to do. The Pistons are heck of a defensive team. They would not allow spurs to get funky (or how U vcan call it)
You give good points, but you have to remember how good the Spurs have been against the Pistons... and logic sometimes won't see that..
Interesting...so you believe the Spurs will lose?
Pop knows where to look when he needs solutions...As long as he keeps doing like I say...we'll be ok...I just don't trust him to keep doing it.
I think when the pressure is on Pop is going to get conservative...and that's deadly against the Pistons...they play conservative better than we do...it wasn't always that way, but it is now. Get conversative and we can't exploit our edge in athleticism.
On paper we should win, on paper they should end up with our foot stuck up their asses...the Pistons are so ing over-rated it's not even funny. I just know Pop's tendencies...if Pop plays to his career long tendencies the Pistons will beat us.
TimVP made a good point when he said these Pistons were built to beat the Spurs...
They were built to beat the Spurs, the Duncan and aging Drob Spurs...not the Duncan, Manu and Parker Spurs...
These Pistons can't hang with the Duncan, Manu and Parker Spurs, they aren't built for it. It's going to be up to Pop to decide which team the Pistons will face...
And I know Drob isn't here anymore...which is why if that is the team the Pistons end up facing...we will lose. I hope Pop knows Drob isn't here anymore and doesn't play to the Pistons strengths...half court and grind it out. They are better at it than we are and they will destroy 4 down.
I also think that Barry isn't going to get a lot of floor time against the Pistons. I don't think he'll get burned again like he did the last time he tried to defend Prince, especially with a mostly healthy team. But unless the Spurs run and move the basketball, Brent isn't going to get any touches on the offensive end, and unless he pulls a Seattle Game 1 & 2 like defensive performance, he'll probably be a defensive liability. The Suns series was his chance to step up and prove himself, and I think he did. But now I would think Pop is going to go back to the old Spurs style of basketball, and Brent Barry just doesn't fit in with that game plan.
Going by the conventional wisdom of Spurs playing 48-minute half-court ball, what y'all are saying makes sense. But Pop has outgrown himself and allows some free-wheeling in the game. He has been like that all season as he has let Tony and Manu to run in a lot of games. Not underestimating Pistons' 'D', Spurs are much more capable in the running game against them.
My thinking is Pop is going to use this Running-game strength of the team and uses Barry. I am not sure how Detroit is defend this, but they definitely can't score at that pace against us.
You have to depend on your strengths rather than get bullied by what opponents do.
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