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    http://www.channel3000.com/news/4577721/detail.htmlhttp://www.channel3000.com/news/4577721/detail.html

    19-Year-Old Stepped On Stomach While Girl Punched Self

    POSTED: 6:44 am CDT June 7, 2005

    LUFKIN, Texas -- A 19-year-old East Texas man faces a life prison sentence for causing his teenage girlfriend to miscarry twins, even though she wanted to end the pregnancy.Gerardo Flores was accused of causing the miscarriage by stepping on his girlfriend's stomach. He was prosecuted under the state's new fetal protection law.

    Erica Basoria acknowledged asking Flores to help end her pregnancy. But the 17-year-old can't be prosecuted because of her legal right to abortion.

    The defense contended that Basoria punched herself while Flores was stepping on her, making it impossible to tell who killed the twins.

    The jury reached a verdict after deliberating four hours. Because prosecutors declined to seek the death penalty in the case, Flores received the automatic life sentence.

    Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press.



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    The defense contended that Basoria punched herself while Flores was stepping on her, making it impossible to tell who killed the twins.
    The world we live in...God help us all

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    this is a ed up story. but in general neocon

    its almost as if we need a new world
    and an order to that world...hmmmmmmmmmmm

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    this is a ed up story. but in general neocon

    its almost as if we need a new world
    and an order to that world...hmmmmmmmmmmm
    So many things wrong with that story, and this is all you can get out of it?

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    not a new world order, the old worldview would be just fine right now...not this secularization gone rampant, which manifests itself in ways like this

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    I'm trying to picture myself stepping on a wife/girlfriends pregnant belly, killing the babies inside...

    How does one get to that point? What's the progression? What are their histories?

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    I don't understand it either...

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    I'm trying to figure out why this deserves a life sentence.

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    not a new world order, the old worldview would be just fine right now...not this secularization gone rampant, which manifests itself in ways like this
    Since you arre using this opportunity to blame and antagonize those with whom you disagree, at least the fetus did not die in vain.

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    secularization gone rampant
    Did he not get a life sentence?

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    not the result Spurm, what motivated them to beat their unborn to death...

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    not a new world order, the old worldview would be just fine right now...not this secularization gone rampant, which manifests itself in ways like this
    I don't think it's "secularization gone rampant"... barbarism has been around for a long, long time, even before there were godless liberals.

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    not the result Spurm, what motivated them to beat their unborn to death...
    I can't say for sure, but based on instances I know of women having abortions, their motivations may have stemmed from pressures that were pretty much the opposite of secularism.

    I would be interested in knowing how far along the pregnancy was, though.

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    I can't say for sure, but based on instances I know of women having abortions, their motivations may have stemmed from pressures that were pretty much the opposite of secularism.

    I would be interested in knowing how far along the pregnancy was, though.
    True. If it was even close to full term, why not just turn the baby over to the nearest fire station. I think a doctor needs to be present at an abortion.

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    I'm trying to figure out why this deserves a life sentence.
    It doesn't. It deserves a tall tree & a rope. If the children were born & they did this they would be given the death penalty or ins utionalized.

    How can people rationalize this kind of behavior? Ever?

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    Not rationalizing the behavior, but the sentence seems a bit harsh given that his only actual crimes may have been unethical medical treatment without a license and (possibly) performing an abortion past the legal term.

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    unethical medical treatment without a license .
    Yeah, I guess you could characterize it that way...nice it up a little...

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    Not rationalizing the behavior, but the sentence seems a bit harsh given that his only actual crimes may have been unethical medical treatment without a license and (possibly) performing an abortion past the legal term.


    Ummmmmm...that is a meaningless statement...

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    Yeah, I guess you could characterize it that way...nice it up a little...
    That's how I would imagine the law would characterize it. Even legal abortions aren't exactly pretty.

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    That's how I would imagine the law would characterize it. Even legal abortions aren't exactly pretty.
    The reason it's meaningless is that it's known by something else at that point...infanticide.

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    Ummmmmm...that is a meaningless statement...
    How so? The law has limits on how late in a pregnancy a woman can legally have an abortion.

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    That's how I would imagine the law would characterize it. Even legal abortions aren't exactly pretty.
    Nope, they are vile and grotesque.

    I think I would characterize it simply as cide, but you knew that.

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    How so? The law has limits on how late in a pregnancy a woman can legally have an abortion.
    I thought you were answering me. See my above post.

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    I'm trying to figure out why this deserves a life sentence.
    Because he killed a baby?

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    Well, sucks for him. If only he'd simply let the girl stick a coat hanger up herself or OD on pain killers, he'd be in better shape. As it is, it's a good thing he's gonna be put away for life, lest he be left to roam the streets and endanger babies everywhere.

    This is a political message sentence, and I expect it to be overruled somewhere down the line.

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