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    PELICANS!!! BRHornet45's Avatar
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    Man, am I tired of seeing Kobe Bryant compared to Michael Jordan, and seeing MVP awards given to him for his reputation, rather than his performance.

    Let's face it: Kobe's overrated. Historically so.

    To start with, here's Kobe's stat line from last night's NBA Finals Game Seven: 23 points (6-24 FG, 0-6 3-FG), 15 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal and 4 turnovers.

    Jordan would never, ever have dropped that kind of nuclear stink bomb in a Game Seven, that's assuming the Best Ever would have allowed a Finals series to get to a Game Seven (he didn’t), or lose a Finals (he didn’t).

    He also never missed the playoffs with the Chicago Bulls (I’m ignoring his time with the Wizards).

    Bryant, on the other hand, missed the playoffs in his prime (the 2004-2005 season), one of only two times in the last 34 years the Los Angeles Lakers have missed the playoffs as a team. He has lost two NBA Finals opportunities.

    As he pointed out, he’s won one more championship than Shaquille O’Neal. Which would be impressive if Shaquille O’Neal weren’t fat and lazy.

    He also has one championship less than Scottie Pippen. Well, I suppose you could argue that Pippen had help, but the point needed to be made.

    Perhaps you’ve been awed by Bryant’s past playoff performance?

    Let’s compare his playoff numbers against Jordan’s and, for a similar player type (albeit smaller and different position), Allen Iverson (courtesy of www.basketball-reference.com ):

    Michael Jordan: 33.4 PPG (48.7% FG), 6.4 RPG, 5.7 APG

    Kobe Bryant: 25.5 PPG (44.8% FG), 5.2 RPG, 4.8 APG

    Allen Iverson: 29.7 PPG (40.1% FG), 3.8 RPG, 6.0 APG

    That’s right, someone who is in the conversation for greatest of all-time has scored four points-per-game less in the playoffs than Allen Iverson.

    For the purposes of context, Iverson has also played more than a hundred playoff games less than Bryant. But do we really think that his points would be the number that came down with more games?

    So together, let’s scale back the talk about how the Black Mamba is the greatest ever.

    If someone isn’t the clear best player in his team’s history (and I don’t care how great his team’s history is), we have to agree that it’s really tough to argue that he’s the best player in league history.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...rrated-as-ever

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    Pop took his brain back. xellos88330's Avatar
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    Kobe "Crooked fingers" Bryant is on the wrong side of the hill now. I wonder how long until Ol' Bone on Bone will last now. His hill is mighty steep.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Kobe: 5

    Jordan: 6 (and locked)

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    Can't refuse Bito Corleone's Avatar
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    BleacherReportHornet45

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Kobe "Crooked fingers" Bryant is on the wrong side of the hill now.
    The Downfall?

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    hasta la victoria, siempre cheguevara's Avatar
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    if you need a laugh:
    "Kobe Bryant signed a three-year contract extension Friday worth nearly $90 million that will keep him with the Los Angeles Lakers through the 2013-14 season.

    The deal will begin after next season. Bryant is making $23 million this season and is due to earn $24.8 million next season.

    "It's very rare to have a player play his entire career in one city, so I'm very excited," he said after the Lakers beat Utah 106-92.

    Bryant could earn $27.4 million in 2011-12, $30.2 million the following season and more than $32 million in his final year, when he would be 35."


    Kobe "bag of " Bryant - the Cornerstone of the Lakers through 2014

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    if you need a laugh:
    "Kobe Bryant signed a three-year contract extension Friday worth nearly $90 million that will keep him with the Los Angeles Lakers through the 2013-14 season.

    The deal will begin after next season. Bryant is making $23 million this season and is due to earn $24.8 million next season.

    "It's very rare to have a player play his entire career in one city, so I'm very excited," he said after the Lakers beat Utah 106-92.

    Bryant could earn $27.4 million in 2011-12, $30.2 million the following season and more than $32 million in his final year, when he would be 35."

    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4

    says he earned it.

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    Champion Lizard_King's Avatar
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    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4

    says he earned it.
    Me: 3

    You: 0

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Fine. You have that.

    I'll take:::

    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    Believe.
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    Fine. You have that.

    I'll take 0 & 63
    Yer right zip!

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