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Dana better make this happen, I can't stand Nick Diaz want to see him get his ass kicked.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Lac...his-Fall-32147
Former IBF super middleweight champion Jeff Lacy has signed on the dotted line to face reigning Strikeforce welterweight king Nick Diaz (Pictured; file photo) in a boxing match in 2011.
The bout, which will reportedly take place this fall, was first proposed last month by Diaz’s manager, Cesar Gracie. Though Gracie initially tried to book Fernando Vargas to face Diaz, a medical issue reportedly ruled Vargas out as a potential foe.
Sherdog.com received a release announcing the bout on Friday and confirmed the news with Gracie shortly thereafter.
As per his contract with Strikeforce, Diaz is allowed to participate in one boxing match in 2011. Gracie confirmed the bout is set unless UFC president Dana White offers Diaz a fight with UFC welterweight king Georges St. Pierre.
“Yes, [the fight is on], unless Dana offers GSP as an alternate sacrifice,” Gracie said.
Lacy, 33, comes off three losses in his last four fights. The former 168-pound IBF king suffered the first defeat of his career in 2006, when he was outpointed by Joe Calzaghe. Though “Left Hook” rebounded with three straight wins, he began his current skid in 2008, losing by unanimous decision to Jermaine Taylor. Recently, the Florida native was outpointed by Roy Jones Jr. in 2009 and Dhafir Smith last year.
Diaz has been tearing up the Strikeforce welterweight division for the last two years. The Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt owns a 10-fight win streak and most recently finished top contender Paul Daley with a first-round TKO in April. Prior to that victory, the 27-year-old defended his le successfully against the likes of K.J. Noons and Evangelista Santos after winning the vacant strap by knocking out Dream champion Marius Zaromskis in January 2010.
“This is a very dangerous fight for both men. Stylistically, it is very intriguing,” promoter Don Chargin said in a statement. “I expected more resistance from fight fans and media in regards to this matchup, but it’s amazing as to the hundreds of calls and e-mails I’ve received from fans on both sides wanting to see this matchup take place. I’ve received more than a few inquiries from some other very high-profile boxers that want to step up and fight Nick. It’s been a real whirlwind.”
Last edited by dbreiden83080; 10-20-2011 at 03:44 PM.
Dana better make this happen, I can't stand Nick Diaz want to see him get his ass kicked.
Does Diaz have a death wish or something?
Lacy is a massive SMW, probably the biggest out there. He's a crappy boxer but still has okay power. He's fallen of A LOT, but still I'd put my money on Lacy over ANY MMA fighter.
Lacy recently lost to a really crappy boxer in Dhafir Smith (24 wins, 20 losses), that must be why Diaz wants to fight him. I didn't get to see that fight but Lacy lost via UD, so I guess Diaz has some sort of chance if he keeps his hands up and stays on the outside.
Definitely a ploy for Dana to sign a GSP/Diaz fight sooner rather than later, but if it does go through then Diaz would win a decision because he can eat punches and offers brutal body shots. Lacy wouldn't be as big a threat after getting worked to the body, it's hard to keep pace even in a punching only match.
Diaz has never fought against a pro boxer, boxers train to take and give punches. Based on your statement you have no idea how big of a gap there is in boxing's stand up vs. MMA's stand up. MMA's best stand up fighters would get absolutely destroyed by a B level boxer in a boxing match (including Silva). MMA fighters can't take punches like boxers can nor can they throw like boxers can. Diaz's punches won't do anything to Lacy at all. Most MMA fighters will go down after they get hit with a decent punch, and Lacy punches pretty hard, I'd take his power over any MMA fighter at 168.
Diaz's only hope of winning this fight is by taking no power punches and staying on the outside which there is a very small chance of happening.
Example of a D level boxer being able to take punches, Nishijima is only a cruiser weight (190lbs) in boxing but here he is taking punishment from a HW K-1 fighter. How many other MMA fighters do you think could take punches like this? (This fight took place right after Hunt defeated Cro Cop)
I know this isn't MMA, I'm just showing you how even a d level boxer's chin stands up when transferred to another sport. How many MMA fighters do you think could take punishment like this?
Yea well Diaz wants the money and he said he does not wants to fight the come ion he has there in Strikeforce.
he wants to be at the top and he wants money.
GSP will rather stay at 170 and won't challenge Silva ...
I'm no fan of Silva and he is not beating A-Level boxers but this is not true IMO. Silva made Forrest a guy who traded punches with Rampage Jackson for 5 rds look silly and lost on the feet before knocking him out in highlight reel fashion.. Silva has reflexes and instincts on the feet like nobody in MMA. Obviously his kicks are out in boxing but his timing is just amazing..
I never thought of Forrest as an elite striker, honestly his stand up looks amateurish to me, his wide, slow telegraphed punches are so easy to counter it's not even funny. Rampage is the same thing, Silva only looks good because of the crappy stand up by MMA fighters. It's VERY hard to transition from one sport to the other, their stand up is almost nothing alike.
Silva tried boxing in '98 and got KO'd by a really bad boxer, this guy:
And then tried it in 2005 (A couple months before he defeated Franklin) and looked pretty bad, he fought an unknown boxer fighting his first pro fight from Brazil. He won via TKO in round 2 but he couldn't do the stuff he did in MMA he didn't look very impressive at all, go ahead and look up the fight on youtube, I'm pretty sure the guy's name is Julio De Jesus:
Elite boxer or elite striker? 2 very different things. Page has good wrestling but he never uses it anymore. He just stands and bangs. He could stand and KO any boxer IMO if he is allowed to use his knees and kicks, work in the clinch etc.. The way you stand in MMA is so different than boxing because you have to worry about leg kicks and TDD. I think Silva has the timing to hang and beat up most B level boxers at this stage of his career where he is clearly the best he has ever been. An A level boxer no he would get killed as they would get killed if they stood with him and Silva used all of his weapons..
lol diaz is an idiot
Puncher, whatever. His technique just seems very poor and his punches are very slow.
Silva's "timing" is the result of MMA fighters telegraphing their punches, they do something before hand that gives away what they're going to do in boxing you learn to eliminate that. Pretty much any boxer could do what Silva does, as they train for it. B level boxers are still very good fighters, it's just that A level fighters are soooo good that they're will destroy you if you make a single mistake. It's ridiculous how good guys like Mayweather are, they only throw shots they know they're going to hit you with. If you want to see a GREAT example of being able to time your opponent just watch Kotelnik-Alexander, Kotelnik isn't strong, fast or anything like that but his timing is top notch, he's a B level fighter too. He just doesn't time one punch, he times almost all of what Alexander was throwing at him. Mayweather-Marquez is another example.
In boxing you learn how to slip punches, punch from different angles, use the ring to your advantage, time your opponent's punches, force them to fight your type of fight, stay on the outside and the inside, so much stuff, it's a very hard sport.
Anyways I heard that Diaz got absolutely spanked in a sparring session vs. Omar Henry (Junior Middle weight 154 and 5'9). Henry started boxing in '08 and stopped in '10 to pursue a career in MMA, he's currently training with the Gracies or something, this kid could be very dangers in MMA imo. His pro boxing record is 10-0 with 8 Ko's against a bunch of nobodies, dude is 24 years old btw.
I didn't get to see the video because the person who put it on youtube set it on private because it was getting too many negative comments about Diaz lol (Well that's what Henry said on his twitter), I heard that Diaz got his ass whooped though, they said he was super slow and got hit a lot, they said his boxing is very poor.
He just might not last more that 2 rounds if he's really that bad, idk though. I heard that in Lacy's last fight against some really bad journeyman he got dominated.
Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz Could Be Announced As Early As Next Week http://bit.ly/lItFUY #ufc #ufc140 #gsp #diaz
Big Big Fight...
Good I can't wait to see that piece of Diaz get his ass kicked. I guess Dana showed him the money since thats all he seems to care about.
Business as usual...
good .. fight is going to happen. GSP and Silva will win and we finally get the mega fight and a permanent move to 185 by Georges.
Ya think?
It all seems like GSP does not want to go up and Anderson will prob retire in 2012.
And well he will lose to Okami anyway so I do not bother.
After Diaz i don't know what the GSP is gonna do at WW anymore?? Rematch's are all that's left so he better seriously think about 85..
Anderson will be retired by 2013, guaranteed. I just don't see what GSP would want anymore at 170 tbh..
If GSP expects to keep getting big contracts from the UFC he needs huge big event fights the next 2-3 years..
That means MW fights..
Yup I said it before. That after he beats [if] Jake Shields, there is absolutely nobody at 170 to challenge the guy and he needs to move up.
Now Nick will try to make it tough for GSP.
IDK I want this fight to be made as quick as possible.
The thing with GSP is when he was asked about 185 he never seemed to be positive about it /moving up/. So I do not know if he wants this.
Anyway there are new young guys at 170.
I mean really. Silva was fighting Cote and Leites for example.
GSP got way far better compe ion IMO.
I think any champ that is dominating for a long time has to face the questions about compe ion. Roy Jones JR made it look easy for years, to the point that people felt as if he was not taking enough chances. He eventually went up to HW and then hurt his career by trying to go back down (GSP has actually discussed this about Jones)
But regardless of the young guys coming up after the Diaz fight 90% of the talk will be "time to go up GSP". I don't think the UFC has pushed him hard on this yet, but post Diaz i expect it to happen..
This would be GSP's 7th defense of the le a UFC WW Record
And he has been champ for 4 years now..
point is.. he needs to move up before he gets matt serra'd again
Promoter says Nick Diaz no longer set to box, Dana White insists UFC bout not guaranteed http://bit.ly/iBaGs3
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