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I'm not gonna jinx us by talking ref-smack before we've even played a game this series.
I hope the refs behave themselves and not try to take over the game. You have two great teams playing, so don't screw it up (*cough* Bavetta *cough* Salvatore *cough*).
Let them play.
I'm not gonna jinx us by talking ref-smack before we've even played a game this series.
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the lame thing is you know
BENNETE SALVATORE will ref at least 1 game
I think the refs will let Detroit play physical which could benefit them more than San Antonio.
Haven't you heard about the NBA-wide conspiracy against the Pistons?
refs don't win or lose games...players do.
Its a conspiracy!
fine me!
I don't think it is that clear. Players can put themselves in positon to lose and then the ref takes the game away from them or vice versa.
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GAMES!
youre wrong
youve never seen a game where tim plays 5 min in the first half, and the opponents are in the penalty down the stretch and steve nash or kobe gets a touch foul called for them right across the halfcourt line, thats 2 free points for guys like that, and the refs know it
For you conspiracy theorists, here's some info. There will be 12 officials involved in the Finals. Each will call be on the floor in one of the first 4 games; three of the six from games 1 & 2 will do Game 5; three of the six from games 2 & 3 will call Game 6; three of the six from games 3 & 4 will call Game 7, if we get that far.
Now, here's an educated guess. I think the 12 officials who will call the Finals will be (in alphabetical order):
1. Bavetta
2. Mike Callahan
3. Dan Crawford
4. Joey Crawford
5. Bob Delaney
6. Joe Derosa
7. Bernie Fryer
8. Ron Garretson
9. Steve Javie
10. Jack Nies
11. Eddie F. Rush
12. Bennett Salvatore
I'd think 11 of those are lead-pipe locks, and I'm almost 100% certain that Jack Nies won't be booted to the curb yet. If one of those guys doesn't make the cut, I'd think that the only other possibilities would be: Greg Willard, Tom Washington, or Bill Spooner.
Now, you can go to town debating your conspiracy theories, knowing who the conspirators will likely be.
It is that clear. Refs don't make you miss shots or free throws or make you throw the ball away. They make bad calls but players have to adjust and move on.
I agree 100%. It's frustrating when the officials miss calls, but it's also frustrating when Tim misses free throws and when Manu makes bad passes. Somehow, when players make mistakes, we see them as nothing other than mistakes and allow that because they're human. When officials make mistakes, though, we accuse them of being in the midst of some conspiracy, apparently believing them to be superhuman robots.
mikey's right -- players win and lose games. Period.
Wait..I thought that us Pistons fans were the ones that hated those guys....
no Bavetta and Salvatore are hated by fans of any fundamental,defensive minded team.
Could this be the game that the Spurs loose?
Even when you are on the bench with your 6th foul because the guy you are guarding slips on a wet spot?
Both teams are similar so I'll assume the refs are similar and won't be bias. 2 classy organizations might follow decent refs.
That was only to prevent us from getting to the finals.
The officiating in the finals should simmer down though, the NBA doesn't want a Championship slowed down boring game. You will probably see a lot of stuff allowed that would normally be called a foul. Besides Bruce Bowen that probably benefits the Pistons more.
I agree 100%, but I have to say in advance, that was clearly a blocking foul. Wallace had a foot on the line of that little arc under the basket. No way that's an offensive foul on Parker.
That was a case where a young official (Bennie Adams) made a mistake.
While I agree that the call was bad, I don't see how you can argue that the bad call determined the outcome. When faced with a bad call (a mistake by an official), the rest of the Spurs chose to play better, made some shots, and won the game. It's proof positive of mikey's point.
So...the other five were bad calls too?Even when you are on the bench with your 6th foul because the guy you are guarding slips on a wet spot?
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