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    What a great player and person. Just listening to him at press conference....good dude no doubt.

    Sucks that he's going against 3 other star players with basically no help....Mavs are Dirk and a bunch of scrubs


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    Jason Terry is not a star player

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    I thought the 'no-help' line was dropped after round 2?

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    Dirk's teammates are not scrubs.

    You quit on this team in January so be quiet

    However, Dirk was great tonight... just came up a few plays short.

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    regression to the mean mavs (not named dirk) fg%

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    Dirk's teammates are not scrubs.

    You quit on this team in January so be quiet

    However, Dirk was great tonight... just came up a few plays short.
    I'd shush ya, but, I imagine you ain't in the mood.

    tee, hee.

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    He's had help, but his help isn't always there.

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    I thought the 'no-help' line was dropped after round 2?
    No, it reappears every time they lose. It doesn't matter whether a bunch of them play well or not, if they lose, it's all their fault. If they win, it's all him. Number two option on a contending team or not, they've got a $90 million dollar payroll and he's got plenty of solid, useful pieces surrounding him.

    Rightly or wrongly, standard procedure in these situations is to blame the star. No one cared when James put up monster numbers the past two playoffs. Why? Because he lost. So it was all his fault. Just like it was McGrady's in the early-mid aughts, even though he was putting up some of the greatest playoff numbers of all time. If it was their fault then, it's his fault now.

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    Sorry TD 21 ( Spurs)... tonight was not Dirk's fault at all.

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    No, it reappears every time they lose. It doesn't matter whether a bunch of them play well or not, if they lose, it's all their fault. If they win, it's all him. Number two option on a contending team or not, they've got a $90 million dollar payroll and he's got plenty of solid, useful pieces surrounding him.

    Rightly or wrongly, standard procedure in these situations is to blame the star. No one cared when James put up monster numbers the past two playoffs. Why? Because he lost. So it was all his fault. Just like it was McGrady's in the early-mid aughts, even though he was putting up some of the greatest playoff numbers of all time. If it was their fault then, it's his fault now.
    honestly, you are one of the best trolls around

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    Sorry TD 21 ( Spurs)... tonight was not Dirk's fault at all.
    You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying, if James, McGrady and myriad others were held to a standard of win or it's your fault (no matter how well you play), then so too should Nowitzki.

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    terrible strategy imho it's all RC's fault. dat philli clearly be the smarter coach tonight tbqh

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    Dirk's supporting cast shot 29% tonight..

    Dirk was +12 in 42 minutes.

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    Dirk's supporting cast shot 29% tonight..

    Dirk was +12 in 42 minutes.

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    You're so sensitive and defensive (typical Mavs fan), that you're too blind to comprehend the simple point I'm making. I'm not saying he legitimately deserves blame. What I'm saying is, if this were James, McGrady, etc., in the same position, they'd be getting blamed. We know this because they were once in this same position and guess what? They got blamed. So why should Nowitzki get a pass?

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    No, it reappears every time they lose. It doesn't matter whether a bunch of them play well or not, if they lose, it's all their fault. If they win, it's all him. Number two option on a contending team or not, they've got a $90 million dollar payroll and he's got plenty of solid, useful pieces surrounding him.

    Rightly or wrongly, standard procedure in these situations is to blame the star. No one cared when James put up monster numbers the past two playoffs. Why? Because he lost. So it was all his fault. Just like it was McGrady's in the early-mid aughts, even though he was putting up some of the greatest playoff numbers of all time. If it was their fault then, it's his fault now.
    Due to injury 17mil didn't even touch the court tonight and 10mil hasn't all playoffs. So stop mentioning 90mil like that means anything.

    To me James did better than probably anyone else could with the talent he had. McGrady shouldn't even be in the conversation if your great you should be able to get out of the first round.

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    honestly, you are one of the best trolls around
    It's because he almost seems serious.

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    Due to injury 17mil didn't even touch the court tonight and 10mil hasn't all playoffs. So stop mentioning 90mil like that means anything.

    To me James did better than probably anyone else could with the talent he had. McGrady shouldn't even be in the conversation if your great you should be able to get out of the first round.
    Why are you still pretending to be a Spurs fan?

    It means a lot. It doesn't insure success, but it sure helps. Even talking Butler out, $80 million. A good $10 million over the tax.

    You're evading the question. They were also considered elite players (James obviously still is), without a second star and they put up monster numbers. The difference is, when their teams lost, they got all the blame. Just like Robinson and many others through the years. When Nowitzki loses, it's "poor Dirk".

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    It's because he almost seems serious.
    This. The SpursDynasty-type trolls are becoming old here. People are so used to them that they barely respond anymore. Now it's all about the logical troll.

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    This. The SpursDynasty-type trolls are becoming old here. People are so used to them that they barely respond anymore. Now it's all about the logical troll.
    How am I a troll? That's code for you Mavs fans conceding, because you know I'm right. You guys are ultra defensive and sensitive.

    I've said plenty of complimentary things about Nowitzki (fifth best PF ever, should have started over Anthony in the All-Star game, had a case for 1st team all NBA) and it all get's ignored, because I don't overrate his one dimensional game, by saying ridiculous things like "he's the second best player in the league".

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    No, it reappears every time they lose. It doesn't matter whether a bunch of them play well or not, if they lose, it's all their fault. If they win, it's all him. Number two option on a contending team or not, they've got a $90 million dollar payroll and he's got plenty of solid, useful pieces surrounding him.

    Rightly or wrongly, standard procedure in these situations is to blame the star. No one cared when James put up monster numbers the past two playoffs. Why? Because he lost. So it was all his fault. Just like it was McGrady's in the early-mid aughts, even though he was putting up some of the greatest playoff numbers of all time. If it was their fault then, it's his fault now.


    The reason why Nowitzki is looked at more as a "tragic hero" rather than a "choker" is because he is a high character and straight laced guy. Him being white doesn't hurt either tbh. After all, that's the demographic that is buying the majority of the suites and the front-row seats.

    I remember when Webber and Robinson used to get scrutinized for their late game failures. Yet, Nowitzki gets sympathy.

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    lol 90 million dollars

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    If you cannot tell the trolls from the posters here, you are ing re ed.

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    Dirk should sign with the Heat.

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    The reason why Nowitzki is looked at more as a "tragic hero" rather than a "choker" is because he is a high character and straight laced guy. Him being white doesn't hurt either tbh. After all, that's the demographic that is buying the majority of the suites and the front-row seats.

    I remember when Webber and Robinson used to get scrutinized for their late game failures. Yet, Nowitzki gets sympathy.
    Who's higher character than Robinson? But when he was a lead player and his team lost, he was supposedly "soft" and "didn't really love the game". No one cared that he was putting up historical all around numbers or that he didn't have a second star.

    It's not about whether Nowitzki genuinely deserves criticism or not. It's about how the standard has always been and how it doesn't apply to him, or Nash, for that matter. When they lose, they're portrayed differently than others.

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