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this is interesting.
I just really don't see the talent in this year's draft to justify trading TP. Obviously, we'd have to get something back besides just the pick from the Kings or Raptors, just not sure what else we could get
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...a_draft_062111
NEW YORK – The San Antonio Spurs are engaged in discussions about trading point guard Tony Parker(notes) to secure a high pick in Thursday’s draft, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Spurs have talked to teams in the lottery, including the Toronto Raptors and Sacramento Kings, who hold the fifth and seventh picks, respectively. The Kings are determined to get a frontline point guard, and have also talked with the Denver Nuggets about Raymond Felton(notes).
It’s unclear who the Spurs would prefer to take if they acquired a high lottery pick.
If the Spurs were to trade Parker, George Hill(notes) could become their starting point guard. League sources said Hill also has drawn trade interest from teams willing to give the Spurs a pick near the back end of the lottery.
Parker didn’t play well early in the Spurs’ first-round loss to the eighth-seeded Memphis Grizzlies in May then later told French reporters he thought the franchise’s days of contending for a le had all but ended.
this is interesting.
I just really don't see the talent in this year's draft to justify trading TP. Obviously, we'd have to get something back besides just the pick from the Kings or Raptors, just not sure what else we could get
I have yet to see any reasonable proposed fantasy trade, draft lottery prospect or combination of the two that would be worth trading TP for . . . also, George Hill as the starting PG . . . good lord, really?!
I'm sort of shocked by the news, but if I step back from instant fan reaction, then I could say that TP didn't play particularly well and hasn't been outstanding in awhile, and certainly didn't step up when they needed him to. Further, if his comments to the French press are indicative of a lack of motivation or interest in playing in SA, then getting a good draft pick to fill a hole might be the best option for everyone.
Sort of shocking that he could be traded less than a year after signing a contract that was supposed to have him retiring a Spur.
Surprising. I would think that they would go after proven players over gambling in this weak draft.
Tony wouldn't have retired after a 4 year contract extension.
I don't think they really have a choice. They don't have assets to bring in a proven player, and lottery teams would bite at the chance to have Tony Parker as a key piece. Who knows what another season can do to Tony's declination, teams may shy away from him next year when the draft gets good.
I'm with you on Tony's play in the playoff. I just don't see the talent in this draft to justify the trade.
2010-2011 and no improvement as a PG says hi
Look, TP was very bad given the cir stances in the playoffs, but to say he "hasn't been outstanding in a while" is completely ludicrous. TP had a great season this year and has been spectacular (when not injured) in the past few years.
Agreed. This seems reactionary of the Spurs' FO, and unless they're dumping contracts in the process while getting talent back, it's hard to justify.
Huh...still no interest in Rj? Not even in the weak draft.
Tim Duncan hasn't been great in the playoffs since 2008. Manu hasn't been healthy in the playoffs since 2007. It's not fair to say Parker hasn't been good for a while because of his 2011 playoff performance.
Well he just finished his 10th year in the league. Statistically the drop off starts now or just after this year. Plus, his level of play is taxing.
Good luck to the FO.
Ok, he's spectacular. Shrug. I haven't kept up with draft talk, so I can't say whether this is terrible or not. Depends on what they can get.
I don't want him traded, I have a hard time seeing that that helps the team, and my instant fan reaction is 'No ing way!' - I was just saying that I could see some reasoning behind the proposal.
Maybe they're talking with Minny about Rubio plus a pick? If you're talking about a high lottery pick, a player has to come back with it. I think Minny would have the best options available, that is, if you're sold on Rubio, which A LOT of people aren't.
This is an interesting turn of events though, as I thought the Spurs would negotiate for proven talent.
The Wolves explicitly told Rubio he won't be included in trade discussions, and Kahn seems bent on making him their centerpiece.
I'm not saying it's ideal, but seeing as how Hill is not a replacement for Parker (I'm sure we can all agree on that) so they'd need a replacement PG for Parker. That pick is not coming in the draft, that's for sure. I think the Kings have the best asset in Omri overall, but I'm not sure what else the Spurs can get from them. Unless they want Beno back.
Rubio got buried in Europe, and while it's most likely that he regressed, it could also be that politics played a part. European basketball is different from NBA basketball in how the politics work and all.
I don't think there's a pick in this draft worth Parker, not even #1. I did like that blurb about Hill being worth a back end lotto pick. I'd jump all over that. He's not a PG by any stretch, and we're likely to be so deep with full sized SGs/SFs, we'll have to cut a good player or two.
Then again, who's available in the back end of the lotto that can contribute right away. As funny as it sounds, this draft is so bad, that may not even be an even swap as Hill could proven to be better than the players drafted in that range.
It's just a terrible draft overall.
I see the reasoning in a certain light, but this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's not awful, but it's not what you'd expect to break up the big 3.
I wasn't trying to say TP has been some top 10 guy, but that he has been pretty damn good for a while though.
Woj named specific teams, so it's hard to believe there is much outside of that.
It's somewhat risky, but it's not a huge gamble to lose Hill for a lottery pick with how good the FO is at drafting.
I would actually rather lose Blair, but he likely not as valuable an asset as Hill.
I can agree with that.
I'm wondering if it's more at ude than anything at this point. He's getting older, nearer to the end of his career, and his trade value is unlikely to get higher from this point in. If he's making noise about thinking they are done or other things that are being interpreted as lacking interest, I can see them deciding it's now or never, and trying to get something for it.
From what I'm seeing, it's an odd sort of move with this draft. I hate to see Tony play elsewhere, but am not opposed to a really good package (hard to picture one, though, really)
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