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That was painful to read. I'm not discrediting the content of your post, but the sentence structure made my eyes bleed.
Okay so TP made some BS comments about the team and he had some off the court activites...ha ha! The bottom line here is di he break a morals clause in his contract?...I understand the Biz as well sure he's a tradeable asset...played well all season except in the playoffs.....so....why not hold Bonner and RJ accountable...It's gonna be tough to unload all that money...but they are the real reason why we lost.
In honesty to blame was the FO....we had the same team last year and made no adjustments or moves....yes we had not cap money but...still if you want to compete you gotta make the moves. We never got Dncan any help...That year we lost to Dallas in 2009...was a turing point...and we knew it!!!!!
Dark days ahead Spurs fans be ing ready...and don't come into the AT&T center with any other team jersey. I saw that crap in the late 80's and mid 90's..that ing sucked!
This Prelude to decline is gonna show how many bandwagon Spurs fans are out there...
That was painful to read. I'm not discrediting the content of your post, but the sentence structure made my eyes bleed.
TP isn't the problem, everyone knows this. He was probably our best and most consistent all-around player this season, he had a great year minus the Memphis series. The problem is that he is our only tradeable chip.
yes really.
2nd best player in the team that won 61 games got outplayed by Grievis Vazquez and Michael Conley 6 games in a row. Let me repeat. Grievis Vazquez and Michael Conley.
Parker is a good Robin to a Batman problem is we got no Batman anymore so as our best tradeable chip I say DO IT!!!!
Our entire team got outplayed, what's your point? The only one who did was Manu and he had one arm. Duncan was checked by Gasol and Haddadi.
who's numbers plummeted by a huge margin?
Gasol + Allen = top defenders
who was supposed to feast on the grizz weak points?
who shot 24% in game 1???
who made the stupidest turnovers late in game 4 and 6??
31 assists to 20 turnovers from your starting PG is a problem. Parker has declined as Duncan did. But fast, score-first guards are common in the league so I'm not sure what Parker can really get for the Spurs. Players like Duncan and Manu are not as easily replaced and they're older. RJ's the bigger problem though.
Last edited by Cane; 06-22-2011 at 02:08 PM.
You forget that they packed the paint taking away Tony's biggest advantage and when his teammates cannot hit a three to save their lives of course his game is going to suffer.
I will say that he did play like , I'm not saying he played great or anything. But he wasn't the MAIN problem. Everyone sucked ass against the Grizzlies. Lionel Hollins outcoached Pop and Pop did nothing to make adjustments.
again. When your top 2 player maybe even top player "plays like " like you say. Of course he is to blame.
I didn't say anything about him being the MAIN problem.
IMO him and Pop deserve equal blame and they both are main reason we lost. Yes. I do believe we could have beated the Grizz with great coaching and a PG playing at all-star level. We had neither.
I would say that TP was one of the key reasons the Spurs lost in the first round. That said, there were plenty of Spurs players that did not play up to their potential in that series.
As to TP's comments I am not upset about that at all. Most everybody who is not a Spurs fan feels that way about the team. It is quite possible it is true and even if Tony believes that, it doesn't mean he won't give his all next season. It also could just mean that he expects we will need to work some trades to be compe ive which all may be true.
If we trade TP I don't think it will be due to his performance in the playoffs nor his comment to French media. Instead it will be because he is the only player we have that has any real trade value right now.
Also...the pic they have of Tony on sports.yahoo.com right now is AWESOME!
IMO, if Tony gets traded it's because he will fetch the most value. It's not because of anything he's said. The that comes out of his mouth ends up being the brutal truth most of the time anyway.
Tony isn't the problem he's just the biggest trade chip the Spurs have that anyone will take.
Don't you think NBA contenders would like to have savy champions like Tim and Manu on their roster? Neal and Hill are valuable assets too.
Hill and Parker are your trade chips. Nobody's gonna want Tim or Manu unless they're getting them for bargain-bin prices. 34 and 35 y/o respectively, and Manu's had an array of injuries for the last several years.
Parker is 29 and is still damn good. Neal's a throw-in.
Neal > Hill
And Don't you think Miami would love to have a Tim Duncan in there instead of Joel Anthony? I'm not talking about how they get them, I'm just saying that they're a valuable pieces for contenders.
Tim costs too much for the sort of productivity he can provide now. Any team would like to have Tim on the roster but I doubt many would be willing to pay his salary at this point. The only people who would be interested in that would be someone looking to dump a long contract they don't want with Tim's which will be expiring soon enough.
If Miami can make a deal to land Duncan, I'm sure they wouldn't mind paying some extra bucks, I think most teams in "win now" mode wouldn't mind paying the price to improve the roster like that.
I agree with Duncan, too little production for 20 million. But Manu is still damn good and while he did break down, he also played an insane amount of minutes. Think of the teams who could have used him in the playoffs, how many players are better than him on the offensively challenged Bulls?
If Tim resigns, it will be for much less. I think he retires, but the last 20 million is part of the deal. His contributions are about what Pop's scheme is allowing him to do. He can still put points on the board and defend as well as many teams' best big men.
Parker was used as Robin the whole season and couldn't find his batman uniform until the overtime of the 4th game...
I mean that (even if it's not an excuse), Pop never gave Parker trust the whole season in the 4th quarter, even when Manu sucked or was tired.
IMO, he was "comfortable whth this role and didn't adapt quickly enough to his "new role" once Manu got injured.
He is obviously the 1st to blame, but not the only one...
must be an ESL thing
Parker was not the problem.
The Spurs got absolutely dominated in the frontcourt, on both ends of the court. That was the problem.
Duncan was , Bonner was , McDyess was mostly , and Blair didn't even get any playing time. Popovich also the bed with the Tiago situation.
All in all, it was mostly Popovich's horrible rotations in the frontcourt that cost the Spurs the series.
TP has somehow lost his edge IMO and your reason might be the one. He just didn't have that same overall killer instinct that he usually has any other season. He had a better season overall that the last two seasons, but I just thought he was missing that usual TP killer instinct for the second half of the season and playoffs.
He is a lot better than he showed in the playoffs and for me it was one of the rare times I was disappointed with his play in the playoffs. Really, really disappointed. I even think he was better in his rookie season in the playoffs against Seattle and LA.
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: I hope that you are a troll.
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