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Manu love just never ends...
I like this denver writer much better than the other "'Melo got dissed to the ASG" clown.
'Gamesmanship' doesn't faze him - just ask Karl
By Chris Tomasson, Rocky Mountain News
June 11, 2005
George Karl tried to tear into Manu Ginobili's game. Ginobili simply continued to tear Karl's team up.
Now, it's Larry Brown's turn. The Detroit Pistons coach is preferring to lavish praise on the San Antonio Spurs guard.
"Anybody that's watched the playoffs would look at Ginobili and say, 'You know they should be talking about Ginobili like everybody who is talking about Dwyane Wade, I think, in our series,' '' Brown said Friday, referring to the Miami guard who shined in the Eastern Conference Finals against the Pistons.
Ginobili had a second half for the ages Thursday in Game 1 of the NBA Finals. In San Antonio's 84-69 win against Detroit at the SBC Center, Ginobili shot 9-for-10 for 22 of his game-most 26 points.
And nobody claimed Ginobili was bad for the game afterward.
On April 30, after Ginobili scored 32 points against Denver in a Game 3 win in a first-round series, Karl ripped Ginobili's game. The Nuggets coach said it wasn't "very pretty for basketball'' because Ginobili's style is to "put your head down and run into people.''
In hindsight, Karl admits he really didn't mean what he said.
"It was all gamesmanship,'' Karl said. "It was trying to get the referees to maybe give us a call, get him to think a little bit. Didn't work.''
It sure didn't. Ginobili averaged 21 points, as the Spurs won the next two games to close out the series.
Opposing coaches can do all the talking and tinkering they want, but nothing seems to work these days in slowing down Ginobili. At least, not for an entire game.
Ginobili shot only 1-for-6 for four points in the first half Thursday. But he took over in the second half, after the Spurs had trailed 17-4 in the first period and 37-35 at halftime.
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich was quite content to turn Ginobili loose. It's become apparent that's when Ginobili, an Argentinian who became an All-Star in his third season, is at his best.
"It's not once in a while, but that -bent-for-leather sort of at ude - the willingness to take big shots, the willingness to do what it takes to win and to do it at the highest possible level of intensity - is there every single minute he steps on the court for 82 regular-season games,'' said Popovich, whose team will look to take a 2-0 series lead in Game 2 on Sunday.
"It's just the way he's built. I never talk to him. I never try to motivate him. I never say a word. I just watch.''
Ginobili's second half included all sorts of acrobatic jumpers and drives. Once, he went in for a finger roll, changed his mind, turned over his hand and threw down a dunk.
And, in reference to what Karl said, he did run into somebody. He plowed into burly Detroit center Ben Wallace in the fourth quarter, and it was Wallace who got called for a block.
"Sometimes, you don't think you're going to make some shots, but you just keep trying,'' said Ginobili, who also grabbed nine rebounds in Game 1. "You feel so excited at that moment, so confident in some parts of the game, that you start believing that you can do more things than you really can or thought you can.''
There was a time Popovich frowned on Ginobili's herky-jerky style. Eventually, though, he took the reins off him.
"I basically have decided that he has all the room that he wants,'' Popovich said.
"(That was decided) probably at the beginning of the season. It took me a couple of years. You know, we had a lot of talks - knocked heads. The more I watched him play, the more film I watched, the more I realized there was going to be a of a lot more good doing it his way than my way.''
Doing it his way, Ginobili averaged 16 points during the regular season after putting up 7.6 and 12.8 in his first two seasons. He's averaging 21.8 points in the playoffs.
"It's not exactly, 'Do whatever you want,' '' Ginobili said of what Popovich lets him do. "But he started to allow me to do more things. You think that usually, as I heard, he didn't let other players do before, so I'm very glad. I knew that I could help the team more if I followed my instincts a little bit more.''
So far, most of the Pistons have been impressed. But there is one Detroit player who merely shrugged Friday when asked about Ginobili.
"He's all right,'' forward Rasheed Wallace said.
"In my opinion, he's a good ballplayer. Ain't nothing too special about the kid. You know, he's a good penetrator, but he's cool.''
If Rasheed Wallace is engaging in gamesmanship, perhaps Karl, a fellow former University of North Carolina player, should let him know it doesn't work.
[email protected] or 303-892-512
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...847883,00.html
Manu love just never ends...
I like this denver writer much better than the other "'Melo got dissed to the ASG" clown.
I wonder if they fired that moronic Denver reporter that kept bagging Manu's game yet?
I'd like to be listening those "talks"
I absolutely LOVE all the Manu hatred. People are ing and moaning about how much he flops and blah blah blah. Bottom line, he just wins.
Oh, you'll love this one...
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...838642,00.html
Lincicome: Spurs-Pistons matchup short on glitter
June 8, 2005
It would not be an NBA Finals without distractions because, if it were, it would only be basketball and I think we've had quite enough of that by now.
Welcome to basketball below the le.
Detroit vs. San Antonio. Sounds like teamsters and rodeo clowns.
This is not a marquee that can travel without a trailer hitch. It is likely to have the ratings punch of working with wood.
The poor, decent folks down in San Antonio have the best player, a lump of a coach and, on the odd night, a Desperate Housewife cheering on the point guard. But the Spurs cannot be depended upon to hold up their end of the general fuss.
That would have to fall to Detroit, which seems not to mind but may not be up to the task.
Just last year, recall, while the Lakers were eagerly chewing on each other, Shaq on Kobe mostly, and Bryant was flying from criminal court to basketball court, and Phil Jackson labored privately late at night writing it all down in a memoir, the Pistons pummeled the California celebrities and got so little credit for it they today must wave their rings in the faces of strangers as reminders that they are the defending champions of the NBA.
This con uous lack of respect was handy fuel for a comeback from 3-2 down to the Miami Heat to eventual victory, not that assorted injuries to Miami's most vital weapons did not have more to do with it.
What worked for Detroit a year ago may now work for San Antonio, the Spurs being to the spotlight what a dust bunny is to a floor fan.
Detroit can never have either the grand or the soap opera of any team near Tinseltown, nor the galloping circus that was once Michael, Scottie, Dennis and the already noted Mr. Jackson.
That Chicago group won les by the threes, one of which had Jordan mute and resentful from vague accusations of gambling with money he could well afford to lose. And the ones with Rodman were pretty much the standard for all freak shows.
Whatever insults may pass between the Pistons and the Spurs - and my money is on it going in that direction - there will be no one called a "heyoka" by his own coach, as Jackson did Rodman. That would be a backward walker, a cross dresser, very big in the Lakota culture as Jackson explained it to me.
Never before or since has an NBA player been both the bride and the groom at his own wedding.
Not that Detroit isn't trying, having offered the drama of what its coach, Larry Brown, might do next. Whereas Brown is not Jackson, and Ben Wallace is not Shaq, and Chauncey Billips is no Kobe, and none of them are Jordan-Pippen-Rodman, you play with the pieces you have.
And Brown's restlessness is legendary, staying put only as long as there is time on the meter. At last summer's Olympics no one would have been surprised if he had jumped from coach of the U.S. to Lithuania.
This time the possible destination is Cleveland, still considered an improvement on Detroit, and now that Detroit has yet another series to play, the intrigue of Ramblin' Larry will be played out against the action on the floor.
Oddly, this could impact the Nuggets since, if Brown's health or dithering or doubts keep him from Cleveland or Cleveland from him, then the Nuggets' cruise director, Kiki Vandeweghe, could sail from here to there.
Why that would be is unclear, but no one seems eager to extend Vandeweghe's contract beyond the year it has left. The point is, Brown has left many dominoes standing and none can fall as long as the Pistons are playing basketball.
If front-office fidgeting is not particularly spellbinding, all Detroit can offer is the disagreeableness of Rasheed Wallace, fined $20,000 for impugning the integrity of NBA officiating, or maybe it was for just being a general jerk.
What Wallace alleged, after Game 5 with the Heat, is that there would be a Game 7, because the league wanted a Game 7, which meant that Detroit had to win Game 6. And it all came true.
After the Pistons whipped the one-legged Shaquille O'Neal and the rib-injured Dwyane Wade, I did not notice Wallace thanking the officiating for making it all possible.
But if the notion that the NBA wanted one of its greatest stars, O'Neal, around as long as possible, it must follow that it would want the same for Tim Duncan of the Spurs and maybe Manu Ginobili, who has become a cult attraction.
So, figure this to go seven games, and I make this prediction without expecting to be fined later.
The Spurs, of course. Yawn.
[email protected] or 303-892-2411
Well, I give him credit. When they're not at home, after getting their asses handed to them in the 1st round, at least the Nuggets aren't boring!Oh, you'll love this one...
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...838642,00.html
The Spurs, of course. Yawn.
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Fishing > playing in Finals.
yet another player/fan/writer/ disgruntled ,and left at the alter.Spurs just piss of their oppositions by beating them down the stretch,and then give them praise after each game,and series.Players/fans/writers cant stand that such good guys wreck their dreams.Good guys have always been boring,but they can be relied apon.Boring teams win CHAMPIONSHIPS,because they play great defense.And every great defensive team has been tabbed as boring,except to there own fans.While this YAWN of a team (Spurs)just keep going through their opponents,like a hot knife through butter.Those exciting teams,like Denver,Seattle,and the Suns,are off doing more excitng things .Like shopping in France,NY,and the Tropics,while the Spurs,are still busting their arses playing defense,and winning the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP!To me "the big fundamentalist",and that white guy,with the nose,and the guy thats dating the starlett,and the guy who cant play defense-without grabbing you,and of course that guy that we gave our beloved Malik for ,are as exciting as it gets these days in big time NBA championships.So its the Rodeo Clowns 1---The Teamsters 0........I love this game!....p.s Bernie it`s time for you to start covering your real money (the Broncos)
Manu averaging over 20 points in the playoffs, and helping his team reach the finals:
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George Karl just owned himself."It was all gamesmanship,'' Karl said. "It was trying to get the referees to maybe give us a call, get him to think a little bit. Didn't work.''
That's the same Denver A-hole that predicted Spurs would be fishing by now.
This guy is a ing moron. We must barrage him with hate mail!Oh, you'll love this one...
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...838642,00.html
Lincicome: Spurs-Pistons matchup short on glitter
June 8, 2005
It would not be an NBA Finals without distractions because, if it were, it would only be basketball and I think we've had quite enough of that by now.
Welcome to basketball below the le.
Detroit vs. San Antonio. Sounds like teamsters and rodeo clowns.
This is not a marquee that can travel without a trailer hitch. It is likely to have the ratings punch of working with wood.
The poor, decent folks down in San Antonio have the best player, a lump of a coach and, on the odd night, a Desperate Housewife cheering on the point guard. But the Spurs cannot be depended upon to hold up their end of the general fuss.
That would have to fall to Detroit, which seems not to mind but may not be up to the task.
Just last year, recall, while the Lakers were eagerly chewing on each other, Shaq on Kobe mostly, and Bryant was flying from criminal court to basketball court, and Phil Jackson labored privately late at night writing it all down in a memoir, the Pistons pummeled the California celebrities and got so little credit for it they today must wave their rings in the faces of strangers as reminders that they are the defending champions of the NBA.
This con uous lack of respect was handy fuel for a comeback from 3-2 down to the Miami Heat to eventual victory, not that assorted injuries to Miami's most vital weapons did not have more to do with it.
What worked for Detroit a year ago may now work for San Antonio, the Spurs being to the spotlight what a dust bunny is to a floor fan.
Detroit can never have either the grand or the soap opera of any team near Tinseltown, nor the galloping circus that was once Michael, Scottie, Dennis and the already noted Mr. Jackson.
That Chicago group won les by the threes, one of which had Jordan mute and resentful from vague accusations of gambling with money he could well afford to lose. And the ones with Rodman were pretty much the standard for all freak shows.
Whatever insults may pass between the Pistons and the Spurs - and my money is on it going in that direction - there will be no one called a "heyoka" by his own coach, as Jackson did Rodman. That would be a backward walker, a cross dresser, very big in the Lakota culture as Jackson explained it to me.
Never before or since has an NBA player been both the bride and the groom at his own wedding.
Not that Detroit isn't trying, having offered the drama of what its coach, Larry Brown, might do next. Whereas Brown is not Jackson, and Ben Wallace is not Shaq, and Chauncey Billips is no Kobe, and none of them are Jordan-Pippen-Rodman, you play with the pieces you have.
And Brown's restlessness is legendary, staying put only as long as there is time on the meter. At last summer's Olympics no one would have been surprised if he had jumped from coach of the U.S. to Lithuania.
This time the possible destination is Cleveland, still considered an improvement on Detroit, and now that Detroit has yet another series to play, the intrigue of Ramblin' Larry will be played out against the action on the floor.
Oddly, this could impact the Nuggets since, if Brown's health or dithering or doubts keep him from Cleveland or Cleveland from him, then the Nuggets' cruise director, Kiki Vandeweghe, could sail from here to there.
Why that would be is unclear, but no one seems eager to extend Vandeweghe's contract beyond the year it has left. The point is, Brown has left many dominoes standing and none can fall as long as the Pistons are playing basketball.
If front-office fidgeting is not particularly spellbinding, all Detroit can offer is the disagreeableness of Rasheed Wallace, fined $20,000 for impugning the integrity of NBA officiating, or maybe it was for just being a general jerk.
What Wallace alleged, after Game 5 with the Heat, is that there would be a Game 7, because the league wanted a Game 7, which meant that Detroit had to win Game 6. And it all came true.
After the Pistons whipped the one-legged Shaquille O'Neal and the rib-injured Dwyane Wade, I did not notice Wallace thanking the officiating for making it all possible.
But if the notion that the NBA wanted one of its greatest stars, O'Neal, around as long as possible, it must follow that it would want the same for Tim Duncan of the Spurs and maybe Manu Ginobili, who has become a cult attraction.
So, figure this to go seven games, and I make this prediction without expecting to be fined later.
The Spurs, of course. Yawn.
[email protected] or 303-892-2411
Bernie "Trevor" Lencicome
That second article wasn't just stupid...it was poorly written.
I had trouble following this idiot's train of thought. He was just rambling and running his mouth incoherently. I don't care if you badmouth the Spurs, just make some sense doing it.
The more I read Sports Journalists, the more I wonder who hires these guys.
Bernie "Trevor" Lencicome
Manu has the stones to step up in clutch.
Rashad's shrivel period.
I want a throw down over him tonight Manu!
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