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    Realistic Spurs Fan Amuseddaysleeper's Avatar
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    This is taken from ESPN's 5 on 5:

    Devin Kharpertian, Nets Are Scorching:

    San Antonio gets: Travis Outlaw
    New Jersey gets: Richard Jefferson


    "It's a minor deal, but most trades are; the Nets and Spurs should swap troubled small forwards Travis Outlaw and Richard Jefferson. Financially, Outlaw would help the Spurs get further under the luxury tax, while Jefferson's contract ends a year earlier. Both players are reviled by their respective fan bases, but a change of scenery and role could revive their careers."



    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...=5-on-5-110704



    What say you?

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    Given the cir stances under which the deal was theoretically proposed, it's very unlikely to happen unless talks have begun.




    The answer to your question: yes.

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    I don't think it'll happen at all, but RJ does have a history with NJ, and we can always pray.

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    Oh and yeah, the lockout happened.



    Stick a butter knife in that trade possibility.

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    Jefferson for Outlaw makes sense for both teams. I noticed Troy Murphy is listed under the "bargain hunting" section, although I know it would never happen because of Pop's mancrush on Bonner, I think he'd be a great fit in the spurs' starting lineup, a real PF sized player who can space the floor and still play defense and rebound the basketball.

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    No. Jefferson is a much better player.

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    Realistic Spurs Fan Amuseddaysleeper's Avatar
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    I know I know, trade Jefferson threads are a dime a dozen right now

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    No. Jefferson is a much better player.
    In what way?

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    In basketball way.

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    You've convinced me.

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    agree with BG, Outlaw is very limited and even the RJ we all hate is better than Outlaw.
    but I would still do the trade, at this point Outlaw might be the better fit, based on his defensive potential, especially defending perimeter PFs.
    and some years back the Spurs were interested in trading for Outlaw, they might still see something there.

    this one could be interesting:
    would you trade for a package Outlaw+Farmar?
    the role of Farmar was reduced when Williams arrived and Uzoh had some promising moments in the back up role. Nets might be willing to move Farmar as well. Farmar would give us the back up PG we need.
    what would it take?
    (yeah, I know the popular proposal would be RJ+Bonner for Outlaw+Farmar, but they don't do this. would they bite if Blair is included?)

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    I would do a RJ for Outlaw mainly because Outlaw is younger. It wouldn't be a great trade so I still hope Spurs will be able to do something better with RJ's contract.

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    I'd take it and run.

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    No. Neither player is worth a , but you keep the shorter contract with the guy that knows your system, so you can rebuild in a year or two. Outlaw is too old and too overpaid to be a part of a rebuild. You'd only have to turn around and dump him again in a year or two, with multiple years still left on his contract. If he had two years left instead of four, I'd be all over it.

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    Would the Spurs do an Outlaw+Petro+2012 unprotected 1st round pick for RJ+Blair+2012 protected 1st round pick?

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    No. Neither player is worth a , but you keep the shorter contract with the guy that knows your system, so you can rebuild in a year or two. Outlaw is too old and too overpaid to be a part of a rebuild. You'd only have to turn around and dump him again in a year or two, with multiple years still left on his contract. If he had two years left instead of four, I'd be all over it.
    Amen.

    Never take the risk on "hoping" a guy will be better at the same position w/ a longer contract.

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    I wanted the Spurs to pick up Outlaw as an FA last year, but that would have been in addition to RJ. Considering Outlaw's contract and his performance last season, it doesn't feel like a move that will improve the Spurs. Outlaw possesses the skills that RJ seems to lack, but doesn't cover RJ's efficiencies. As a tandem they would be good, but it's hard to choose one over the other and neither player has the killer instinct that the Spurs desperately need.

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    Would the Spurs do an Outlaw+Petro+2012 unprotected 1st round pick for RJ+Blair+2012 protected 1st round pick?
    I don't think it matters what SA would do, as NJ would almost certainly NOT do that deal.

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    I don't think it matters what SA would do, as NJ would almost certainly NOT do that deal.
    Again, another very good quote.

    For the life of me, I can't understand why so many Spurs fans - who obviously don't like RJ - think he'd be attractive to ANY other team in the league. The very reason he's unliked here are the same reasons keeping him here. Throwing in Blair won't make it a doable deal either. The Spurs already tried packaging him w/ the most tradeable asset they have - TP - and both are still on the team.

    I doubt even Outlaw would be doable.

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    yes!!

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    Anything, and I mean anything that involves moving RJ w/o moving one of the Big 3 is a yes for me.

    Spurs fans shouldn't expect anything for an RJ trade straight up.

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    I wanted the Spurs to pick up Outlaw as an FA last year, but that would have been in addition to RJ. Considering Outlaw's contract and his performance last season, it doesn't feel like a move that will improve the Spurs. Outlaw possesses the skills that RJ seems to lack, but doesn't cover RJ's efficiencies. As a tandem they would be good, but it's hard to choose one over the other and neither player has the killer instinct that the Spurs desperately need.
    lol refusing to give up on

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    Anything, and I mean anything that involves moving RJ w/o moving one of the Big 3 is a yes for me.

    Spurs fans shouldn't expect anything for an RJ trade straight up.
    Question for you sir,

    As far as your desire to maintain the Big 3 in SA for another year, is that due to hopes of winning a championship or primarily out of respect what they have brought to the city in the past?

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    I didn't want to start a new thread so I'll put this with the other SF talk....shame we couldn't trade for him.

    Marc Stein: Word is Knicks/Spurs still hot for Casspi and checked in to see if they could wedge their way into last trade fun of 2010-11. But Cavs told 'em they traded for Casspi with intent to keep him. GM Chris Grant says Cavs have liked Casspi since Kings drafted him in 2009 Twitter

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