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No surprise here. Kolb goes to Ariz for DRC and a No. 2, according to sources.
5 year extension, 63 million, 20 guaranteed.
- DRC and a 3rd should have been enough but if this makes Fitz sign an extension then this is a steal.
Hopefully PP7 will be able to replace DRC, beef up the Oline and sign WRs.
There is hope in AZ again!
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Given how ty DRC was last year, they're basically trading a 2nd rounder for Kolb. PP will more than replace DRC.
Kolb = Schaub 2.0
he'll look good but wake me up when he completes a pass that matters.
Schaub 2.0 kicks the out of Mx Hall and the Cardinals' other QBs last year.
If Kolb didnt get injured, Vick would still be rotting in the bench.
After all this is about pleasing and resigning Fitzgerald anyway.
I think the difference between Kolb and Hall/Anderson, and the new defensive coordinator and Billy Davis, is more than the 2 games they were away from being tied for the division lead.
IMO they still need a new corner, a new free safety, and a playmaking ILB. Rhodes is a good individual player but a horrible fit next to Adrian Wilson. I am fully confident PP7 is a #1 corner and future probowler, Toler would be a solid nickel corner, they need a legit #2 corner. At ILB they have solid role players who aren't liabilities, but a good 3-4 needs a playmaker at ILB.
The new DC is a cornerback specialist so PP7 will definitely be a future pro-bowler.
They lost Breaston but are targeting Floyd.
Rhodes, Wilson, PP7, DD, Washington, Campbell <<pretty good defense right there.
Plus they have money and can still sign players that were cut...like old guy clements from the 49ers
I'm still pissed Whiz refuses to get an established OC and DC but rather continues to suck Steeler chode. If they don't make the playoffs this season he should be fired.
Agreed.
If they wont accomplish anything this year, it will only validate the fact that Warner carried his ass.
Damn they s ed out a lot to him.....hope he pays off for you guys.....
If the trade for Kolb makes Fitz sign an extension then Kolb already did his part.
Card's backup QBs are pathetic and if they dont shore up the O-line, Kolb will be maimed by the 4th week.
Lmao, Kolb ing sucks, what the were the Cards thinking?
He can't handle pressure for , he panics like crazy when he doesn't have all day to throw in the pocket and winds up either getting sacked for a big loss (he runs back for some reason), throwing a poor pass, or throwing an INT.
He can't be compared to Schaub either, they're nothing alike. Kolb has a really weak arm, unlike Schaub who's got a monster arm. There were so many times last season where Kolb would try to complete like a 20-30 yard pass down field and it'd wind up going over his receivers heads/off target/under thrown. The only time he's done any good were against bad defenses as well. He's pretty good with throwing short passes to his RB/FB (Which he did A LOT of). It's not like he was playing with a bunch of scrubs either, dude was throwing to D-Jax who'd turn a regular 4 yard catch into a TD, Maclin who's a very good receiver, McCoy who's one of the best young RB's in the NFL both rushing and receiving, and finally one of the best TE's in the NFL-Celek.
His receivers were wide open most of the time, he rarely had to make a tight pass.
His O-Line also played outstanding while he was playing, GREAT pass protection, he had all day long to throw against pretty much whoever he played. Of course they couldn't block Matthews though.
So basically what I'm saying is that Kolb had EVERYTHING going good for him, his defense was playing well, great blocking from the O-line, WIDE open receivers, a good running game, one of the best offenses in the NFL etc. It was one of those situations where almost any QB in the NFL could thrive. It was later on in the season when the Eagles' O-Line started playing like , a lot of injuries started happening, the Eagles started playing tougher defenses etc.
Vick was playing out of his mind, it was easily one of the best regular season performances by a QB in the history of the NFL. There were so many plays last year where he'd have less than 3 secs to throw, he'd juke a whole bunch of guys and turn a play that would've been a sack into a TD or a big gain.
Last edited by Hooks; 07-29-2011 at 07:33 PM.
I didnt really get to see Kolb play with the eagles but if the Cards went after him instead of a much cheaper and proven Orton then I think they are onto something. I mean, Im just a fan and Cardinal talent scouts do this for a living so I'll trust the FO.
I think they bought into his hype.
The way I determine how good of a QB a guy is, is by paying attention to the types of throws they make, how open their receivers are and how good their receivers are, how they handle being rushed and making throws under pressure etc. Pretty much what kind of situation they're in.
I mean just look at Brady last year, he was named MVP. But if you watched his games last year you'd have seen he had ALL day long behind that line, whereas someone like Vick or Rodgers would only have a split second to make a pass. Brady was making very simple short passes to guys like Woodhead and Welker, even when they had Moss, these guys would be wide open, they're one of the best coached teams in the NFL both on offense and defense. Meanwhile Vick would be dodging guys left and right, escaping the clutches of DE's and LB's and making a difficult down field throw for a TD.
Once Brady was finally pressured he went from a guy that was MVP to a guy that looked just average out there.
PP7 and his agent might hold out.
These two idiots know he's gonna be the #1 CB and is just milking it. I dont even know what to hold out for? They have a set payscale. Just tell your dumbass agent to shut the up already.
Agents are starting to piss me off...specially that asshole Rosenhaus.
The amount of Cardinals fans crying about this trade is stupid. My one complaint is the massive contract Kolb hasn't earned, but they needed to pay him to ensure he doesn't leave after 1 year. It's also a cause for concern that of every Kolb highlight I've seen, he's throwing with perfect pass protection in a pocket that requires 0 ability to buy time. They gave up a lazy corner who was only gonna be motivated by a change of scenery and swapped 2nd round picks.
I woulda preferred they trade for Orton since they woulda given up less for a more proven QB who's had experience throwing with bad pass protection, but they needed to get either Kolb, Orton or McNabb since those were the best 3 options (don't include Palmer since Cinci isn't trading him) and they did. Now it's time for Whisenhunt to prove he and his coaching staff full of assistants the Steelers didn't feel were worth keeping that he decided to hire over coaches like Rob Ryan or Tom Cable are capable of winning without a HOF QB.
I'm not up to date with NFL contracts in general, but 5 years and $63 million seems a lot for Kolb...he's an unproven QB, he's not a scrub but nothing remotely special. Not a game changer, he'll usually make the right play but doesn't make too many huge plays. Is it because he's a QB that his contract is relatively large (Nnamdi just got the same contract but $3 million less), and that the Cards needed one?
Not good. ADub injured in practice per PP7 tweet:
ThE_rEaL_P2 What a great practice today, but I will need everyone on twitter to keep my big bro @adrian_wilson24 in their prayers THANKS. #teampeterson
check
Still a need unless Adrian Wilson returns to form and doesn't need a coverage specialist next to him which is in doubt after PP7's tweet
Hopefully that's what Stewart Bradley is.
defense = staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked
Seriously tho, a a new left tackle, a semi-decent #2 receiver and the NFC west is there's.
People at the camp are saying ADub has torn biceps. Still waiting for the MRI though. Damn if it's true, that's gonna be months to heal and a major blow on the staaacked defense.
- I think FO is content with the tackle with Brown, Bridges and Keith. Colledge will be the new LG.
Man, sounds like adub is hurt real bad. Hope its not a season ender.
http://mobile.twitter.com/adrian_wil...42776745488385
Beanie Wells and Ryan Williams, damn! One for downhill power run, the other for speed and cutbacks. Good combo!
...And Max Hall with the preseason moxie 4/4 2 minute drive.
Bradley is pretty good. The problem is, there is a 100% chance he will go down with a season ending injury at some point. It got extremely frustrating after a while.
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