I'd love to hear Pop explain it. Barry was brought in to shoot from outside, and the guy was on tonight. You gotta roll with that when he's hot.
What, 21 minutes isn't good enough?
But I agree. No way Manu should've gotten more minutes than Barry tonight.
Of course, if Manu had gone on a fourth quarter tear like in Game 1, we'd feel pretty stupid for supporting Barry, right?
Hindsight is 20/20.
Last edited by MadDog73; 06-14-2005 at 11:36 PM.
How many shots did Barry get? That's what I thought.
I agree.
I couldn't beleive when POP took both Barry and Rasho out...they were both having good games..moving well, and going strong. Go with whats working.
And that one Barry "Dr J" move on the reverse was sweet.
So you guys wanted Manu to sit in the 4th?
Pop, you have some splaining to do.
Considering how he was playing? I have always been an advocate of going with the hot hand.
Tonight that was clearly Barry. And there's nothing wrong with playing them together when Detroit went small - you can put Tony, Brent, and Manu out there together when Detroit was running Hunter/Billups/Rip.
I think it would have given Detroit fits to run a Tony/Barry pick and roll. But then you're talking about getting creative at the offensive end.
Brent should have played the whole 4th Q, he was redhot.
You are dumbass Inagra...when you got two ing guys trapping what does that mean?
Did you notice every guys on the Spurs was passing to beat it as well?
That's means someone doesn't have a defender on him...I am sick of you guys calling smart ing play cowardice...ya'll are ing stupid when you do that.
Dude has played his whole ing career on guard oriented teams...he knows how to handl the defensive pressure being on the guards....it's the one thing he does know.
You want the guy to dribble up the court with two mother ers pressing him...that's ing stupid.
that offense was ok in games 1 and 2.But then you're talking about getting creative at the offensive end.
Wow, sounds like coaching an NBA team is easy. Just keep your players on the court when they're hot. Never mind if they aren't used to playing extended minutes.
Manu was cold as liquid nitrogen in the beginning of game 1. So according to all you geniuses, Pop should have pulled him, and not let him play in the 4th, right?
no way you take out an mvp of the series (so far) for brent. especially after a game 1 where he had 4pts at the half and then went off for 22 in the second. it is all about the team, but the matchups were the same here in san antonio - and the rotations have been set for some time. if he's having a rough night, you let him play through them. (tim didnt have a game 1 type game either, do you take him out?)
TPark...why the did Barry get more PT in a game he didn't make a shot than he did tonight? Doesn't that seem a little bit odd to you?
This is the Pop does that drives me insane...he just does it for no ing apparent reason...it's like he gets tired of dominating or something...like he doesn't want the team to get overconfident...
We need points...even with ty play the tempo had been keeping us in the game all night...
So what do we do when Detroit has a little luck with the trap? And gets a lead in the 4th?
We sloooooooooooooooooow it down...trailing...we run the most predictable offense that we have...one that the bobcats know how to stop...
That just drives me crazy...
Pop hasn't done that in a long time...
Even still it's not all on Pop...
They were doubling Duncan and he was not passing it...
Not just to Barry...Bowen stopped getting it too...and he was having another good shooting night.
It's almost like Duncan knows that his usual claim to the MVP is being challenged and he was forcing it trying to get numbers.
That was only time I have ever seen Duncan play like that in the finals.
It's called a trap and you can't do it with one guy...
And that's what you are supposed to do when you are getting trapped...that's why teams don't do it for entire games, because they can get burnt...Horry was open wasn't he?
its good you said the finals because he kinda had a game like this in the western conference finals? (game 4) i dont think tim is selfish, i think he saw manu having a bad night and wanted to come up big. detroit just played him harder and he had a bad night to boot.
With all due respect, you don't know about offense if you think we ran the same plays tonight as we ran in games 1 and 2.that offense was ok in games 1 and 2.
Lots of iso, standing around, and 4down tonight. Ugly.
Barry and Bowen were hitting it bigtime tonight, Manu was too for that matter(from 3)...don't tell me Duncan didn't know it. He was trying to get his...no matter how many guys he had on him.
Pop dropped it like it's hot...dropped it like it's hot.
so you think manu had a good game... and that barry and bowen are going to win you a game when your inside presence (tim) isnt established?
Tim was plenty established...he was drawing doubles. His teamates were open..it's his job to kick it out...he wasn't doing it.
winning games by shooting three's isnt how we got to the finals. that isnt even how phoenix got to the western conference finals? tim was doubled and passing lanes were cut off alot quicker in this game. yeah he probably shares the blame for not seeing everything quicker... but llast game, manu had 7 assists - and most of those were penetrations to kickouts for 3's by open guys... like bowen and horry.
You do realize, right, that we got both of our rings by shooting threes.winning games by shooting three's isnt how we got to the finals.
We also kicked Detroit's ass in game 2 shooting threes.
We also would have kicked their ass tonight if we would have let Bowen and Barry keep shooting them.
you want to sit our playoff mvp for brent ing barry? i hate you people
Um...hitting threes off Duncan double teams is how we have won two NBA les...
Do we need a refresher course from 03 on what happened when we didn't play Steve Kerr VS when we did?
Do we need a recap of just what transpired in game 6 of that series that enabled us to come back?
Duncan did not score a point during the 19-2 run to win that game...he did however have about 5 assists.
On top of that it was stupid because if he'd passed out of it more tonight he'd have had less bodies in the paint...
Duncan knows this stuff...every finals game of his career has been a textbook on how to be the perfect basketball player...
And the thing is...the Spurs could have run some plays for someone else if Duncan was doing what he was supposed to do and it wasn't working.
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