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I am thinking about starting a business. i want to start an upscale coffee shop. However I haven't lived in San Antonio for a few years. What is the market like in San Antonio with small biz coffee shops?
I also have a friend who wants me to partner with him on a bar. We are picturing a small size bar with a live band, and we are willing to pay more for location. He wants to go downtown austin. He'll be out of the army while i am finishing my contract and pretty much being a silent partner until I move back to Texas.
So coffee shop or bar with a partner?
Coffee: downtown with the downtown crowd and tourists or Around Broadway with yuppies, college students and people driving town?
Bar: Austin or San Antonio?
Austin: 6th street, downtown or Round Rock?
Any advice would be great.
You have capital?
Have Asian es in G-strings who talk like the Full Metal Jacket hookers. Just make sure they're 18, you aren't near a school or church, and they're not really hookers.
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i think you should buy a franchise like Starbucks or Seattles Best instant brand recognition dont go against the grain. Join the Dark Side.
I want to sell a more European style coffee and cappoccino that focuses on the true coffee flavor as opposed to the american flavoring of everything. also i refuse to ever call a small a tall, medium:grande, and large:venti.
well best of luck to you competing with the big boys.
thanks.
What if they just "look" 18?
That should be good enough, right?
if you're seriously thinking about starting a business then you need to have more of a plan than just asking spurstalk which largely consists of dumbasses, and should probably know a thing or 2 about the town you are planning to open up in. Compe ion, demand for that sort of thing there, location, etc..
YH: I think you are assuming that this is my only plan. I just wanted to hear what people thought. Although I want a coffee shop and have a better knowledge of the business, I will probably do the bar thing because I would have an equal partner and we already have a business model draft. Also I would have someone to run it while I am finishing out my contract. It would be down the road maybe in a year.
The best advice that I can offer is that location is EVERYTHING when it comes to bars and that sort of thing. If you do everything else wrong but get that 1 little thing right, you should be moderately successful. Reverse that, and it probably won't matter how well you do everything else, without a good location it will fail.
I would not invest in food service. I really do not know you well enough to give better advice.
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That is exactly what we said.
Fuzzy: I agree completely.
Do some SWOT analysis and make sure you have a good mission statement and then develop a business plan. Read Art of War and then break down your portfolio into categories of: dogs, stars, question marks, and cash cows. Try to find the point where MR = ...MC??? and use that info to create synergy.
^sup marketing major
no. but for some reason, all that is still in my brain. and it was nicer than a mother joke.
The coffee biz is a pretty compe ive business, I think. Austin is probably a better place for a start-up because it embraces alternative and independent shops more than San Antonio. That's just my impression.
and gays. don't forget the gays.
Very true. Interesting that your choose to focus on that though.
that is interesting. but a combo gay coffee shop / bar could be just the ticket.
Yeah that was I was thinking. Also it seemed like San Antonio was oversaturated with lil coffee shops. I also think coffee shops with higher prices for better coffee would be more welcomed there. I am going to roast the beans in the store, and I think that kind of small biz quality would be more welcomed, like you said, in austin.
Tht comment reminded me of the bar/laundrymat in San Angelo by ASU. It was a great idea for them, and they were making a killing. They had security cameras in the laundrymat with monitors in the bar.
Good points, and he should invest in some framed sayings of Lombardi and some inspirational stuff.
If you're doing it in Austin, I can tell you from a user perspective because I use coffee shops a lot for wasting time.
You need seating, outlets for laptops and decent parking. You need outside seating with protection from bird , outlets and good free wifi.
Have clean restrooms.
Don't blast ty music. Play something that's not a hit, not Muzak or that . The music should not distract the customer.
Have trash cans emptied regularly and have them near entrances.
Quality stuff, not I can get at a Tigermart.
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