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Paul/Gordon/Butler/Griffin/Jordan...not too shabby
LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2925892.story
says the package is kaman aminu bledsoe and the all important minny 1st rounder. nice haul.
Paul/Gordon/Butler/Griffin/Jordan...not too shabby
Stern will veto it w/out Gordon
He's still going to LA anyway.
Lakers
paul is an idiot if he doesnt wanna play with blake griffin...if the clippers can put a winning product on the court and the prospect of being real contenders, sterling might not be a cheapass for once
They really need to build a bench now; Mo Williams is the only decent player they have there. Too bad they had to lose Bledsoe, as Randy Foye sucks donkey .
Nah...that 2012 pick might be Harrison Barnes. Two youngins, a solid draft pick and cap relief goes with what $tern is looking for
That pick is going to be gold considering how bad Minnesota is. There are so many great prospects this year: Anthony Davis, Harrison Barnes, Andre Drummond, Jared Sullinger, Michael Gilchrist, Perry Jones, Quincy Miller, Terrence Jones, etc. Even midway through the first there will probably be some really nice talent like Austin Rivers or John Henson.
so whats better?...that clipper trade or getting Scola, Odom, Kevin MArtin, Dragic and first round pick?
LOL STERN
FYI Jordan isnt with the Clippers anymore
Are you serious? The Minny pick alone makes it better. You don't rebuild by trading for expensive pieces and late draft picks, you rebuild with high draft picks and young players, and it looks like NO may have 2 top 5 picks in a stacked draft. The fact that they picked up former lottery picks Aminu and Bledsoe is frosting, an infusion of cheap, talented young players.
Last edited by ChuckD; 12-12-2011 at 08:19 AM.
He signed an offer sheet with GS. Since they traded Kaman, you can bet your ass the LAC are matching.
Its a very good deal for both parties.
But I dunno much about next year draftees, so...
good trade for the nba hornets, tbh
Now I have to admit if they get all of this, it IS a better deal for the future of the Hornets. So DPG was right they got a better offer, here.
My issue over the weekend was that the previous deal was a good deal as well and had much more PROVEN talent, and stern should not of vetoed, since Demps was given autonomy to deal.
The fact the Hornets got a better deal is irrelevant to my previous argument. However those that said the Hornets would not do better were wrong, DPG was right.
And I much would rather see Paul in my former hometown, rather than Boston or Dallas.
I dont mind him going to NY, since I was born in Brooklyn.
Now it sounds like Gordon IS part of the trade... Even better for the Hornets.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...ba-source-says
By Chris Broussard and Marc Stein
ESPN.com
Clippers Submit Paul Deal
The New Orleans Hornets and Los Angeles Clippers submitted a multiplayer blockbuster deal to the NBA on Sunday that would send All-Star point guard Chris Paul to Los Angeles, a source with knowledge of the discussions said Monday.
But the trade as presented has one hitch: The league, which owns the Hornets, wanted Eric Bledsoe, while the Clippers want to keep their point guard, the source said.
The deal would be done if the league hadn't asked for Bledsoe, according to the source.
The trade as submitted would cost the Clippers guard Eric Gordon, center Chris Kaman and forward Al-Farouq Aminu. It would also include Minnesota's first-round draft pick in 2012.
The Los Angeles Times, citing two sources familiar with the discussions, reported late Sunday the deal included Bledsoe, but the source told ESPN that is not so.
The Times' report said both parties were in the final stages of negotiations and that the NBA will likely review the deal Monday.
A source close to Paul said he has decided to pick up the option on his contract as part of the potential deal, meaning he would be in Los Angeles through at least the 2012-2013 season.
Paul's decision was what prompted the Clippers to put the pick they got from Minnesota in the deal, the source said.
The Clippers knew Paul was unlikely to sign an extension with any team that trades for him because the rules in place in the NBA's new labor agreement make it more advantageous for top stars to play the season out and then sign a longer deal in free agency, even if they're staying with the same team.
Sources told ESPN.com Sunday that the Clippers, in one scenario, merely wanted Paul to pick up the option at the time of the trade -- thus delaying his free agency by one year -- if they would cede one of their two most prized trade assets for Paul: Eric Gordon or a future No. 1 draft pick.
In a similar situation in February, Mo Williams agreed to pick up his option for the 2011-12 season to clinch the Clippers' deal with Cleveland that swapped Williams for Baron Davis.
Sources said earlier Sunday that the Clippers -- if Paul agreed to do the same -- would be willing to reverse their previous stance and send either Gordon or the Minnesota pick to the Hornets because they'd know that Paul would be in place next to Blake Griffin for at least two seasons, removing the threat of trading for Paul and then watching him leave in free agency in July.
ESPN.com reported late Saturday that the Clippers had emerged as the "early front-runner" in the race to land Paul after the frustrated Lakers finally withdrew from three-team talks with the Hornets and Houston Rockets. One source close to the situation said early Sunday that New Orleans had asked the Clippers for Gordon, Kaman, Bledsoe, Aminu and at least two future first-round picks in exchange for Paul.
Sources say that the Clippers, meanwhile, are quietly confident that having Paul for the next two seasons will ultimately lead to a long-term arrangement, especially if L.A. manages to sign Griffin to an extension next summer. ESPN.com reported earlier this week that Gordon and the Warriors' Stephen Curry are the players most coveted by New Orleans in a potential Paul deal, but the Warriors have been pessimistic about getting the assurances about the future they need from Paul to surrender Curry.
The Hornets remained under pressure to find a palatable deal for Paul, who can become a free agent in July 2012 and has already told the franchise that he does not intend to sign an extension. In addition to New Orleans' natural desire to find a new home for Paul as quickly as possible to avoid the sort of soap opera that engulfed the Denver Nuggets last season until they traded Carmelo Anthony in February, league officials now technically in charge of the Hornets also know that the union has hinted at soon pursuing legal action on Paul's behalf if a new trade is not hashed out.
Paul spoke extensively with the union on Thursday, after Stern squashed the original three-team trade, about what legal options were available. The union planned to speak with Paul Sunday to gauge how he wants to go forward and how vigorously he may want to fight the league's ruling, sources said.
While Paul is despondent, sources say he also understands that a drawn-out battle with the league, whether in the courts or elsewhere, could lead to a heavy public backlash in New Orleans. But there is also a push within the union to sue the NBA if no trade is consummated by Monday, with possible claims of cir vention or collusion.
New Orleans officials are likewise crestfallen by the NBA's steady refusal to sign off on any trade construction presented by the Hornets, Rockets and Lakers that would have landed Paul in L.A. next to Kobe Bryant after NBA commissioner David Stern vetoed the teams' original trade Thursday.
Last edited by Darth_Pelican; 12-12-2011 at 11:16 AM.
Ok, with last update, seems now Clippers are giving too much. Sure, Hornets will suck for a while, but they were going to suck with CP3 anyway and they may get luckly and that pick be awesome.
Maybe Stern will reverse reject it.
tee, hee.
ANd i agree the other deal was fair, thi one I think if the published reports are true, is a raping. But I dont really like aminu or Kaman that much.
IF they can get Gordon or Bledsoe, Minny pick and Kaman that is a pretty good deal.
If they get both Beldsoe and Gordon that is highway robbery...
Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Sources say in addition to Bledsoe, league asking for another pick from Minny. Stern is trying to make this impossible.
Stern is being in ridiculous. I don't understand why.
Gordon, Minnesota's first, Aminu, and Kaman? Wow, that is an absolutely incredible deal for New Orleans. That's ridiculous that Stern is holding out for Bledsoe and now a second first rounder. There is no way the Hornets get a better deal than
(1) One of the top young guards in the game on a cheap deal
(2) Very high lotto pick in a stacked draft
(3) B-level prospect on a cheap deal
(4) expiring contract
That addresses every need they could have. Three great prospects and no bad long-term salaries. This is as good as it gets and I would be mad as as a Hornets fan if this one gets shot down. If the Clippers weren't negotiating with Stern, no way they'd give up Gordon. It's way too much for them to give up, but I kind of hope this trade does get shot down so the Spurs can try to pry that pick away with Parker once the team sees it isn't winning at the trade deadline.
knowing how NO fan was celebrating the crap deal before they would prob celebrate this not happening.
No garuntee that is a high draft pick, but I agree this haul is ridiculous ...in fact Clips are dumb to trade this much for Paul ...with his iffy knee. the Paul that was 2nd in the MVP voting ...then this would be a fair deal.
But for the Clips it helps make them relevant in the playoffs ...
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