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    Obama Signs Bill To Jail Americans Indefinitely Without Charge

    In his last official act of business in 2011, President Barack Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act from his vacation rental in Kailua, Hawaii. In a statement, the president said he did so with reservations about key provisions in the law — including a controversial component that would allow the military to indefinitely detain terror suspects, including American citizens arrested in the United States, without charge.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...n-of-citizens/

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    Another example of political gamesmanship at the expense of basic American rights. all of these clowns.

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    I thought it was already settled that the whole "terrorist threat" was a lie designed to invade the Middle East, it makes no sense why Obama would still be running with this gag if he wasn't afraid that white people still believed in Al Qaeda and will think he's soft of terrorism.

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    The MIC cancer metastaizes, militarization of US justice system.

    MIC and right-wingers screams "national security threat" and the politicians fold and cower like limp s, unwilling and unable to "get up" any resistance to the false, money-grubbing paranoia.

    Panetta today is supposed to announce $100Bs cuts in MIC funds, so MIC is hustling around screaming new threats to keep the corporate welfare flowing.

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    More fodder for Romney and the GOP.

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    and here is why I would vote for Paul

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    Paul can't do to undo the MIC cancer, and he won't be President or even the nominee.
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    What a ing clown man.

    The indefinite detention was tied into a bill that gives veterans and wounded soldiers benefits, plus a lot of necessary defense spending. A president with a spine woulda vetoed the bill with the demand that the uncons utional horse be left out.

    the president and congress. It's pathetic that the in bency rate is so high because the average dip American never votes this trash out of office. They blame congress, but not their congressman because "he's looking out for me"

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    More fodder for Romney and the GOP.
    truth hurts doesnt it u god damn liberal
    hey jackasses, this passed the senate with like 90% votes from both of your "teams".

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    hey jackasses, this passed the senate with like 90% votes from both of your "teams".
    No asshat. But it still contained parts that hey could have removed had Obama the "line" veto.

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    No asshat. But it still contained parts that hey could have removed had Obama the "line" veto.
    It was my understanding that Obama REQUESTED that they specifically add US citizens to the detention. The original language EXCLUDED US citizens.
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    Cons utional attorney: Guantanamo ‘nearly impossible to close’ thanks to NDAA

    “It has no real geographical limitation, it has no temporal limitation,” he said, summarizing key provisions in the NDAA. “It basically puts into law, into permanent law, the ability to indefinitely detain, outside of a cons utional justice system, individuals the president picks up anywhere in the world that the president thinks might have some connection to terrorism. The United States Congress, with the support of the president, has now put into law the possibility of indefinite detention, where the entire world, including the United States, is a battlefield.”

    But more than just giving the presidency more power to imprison terror suspects, the NDAA also strikes at Obama’s promise to close Guantanamo by limiting the executive’s authority to transfer prisoners.

    “[There are] really dangerous provisions here that would make it nearly impossible to close Guantanamo,” Azmy explained. “Congress has forbidden from transfering or releasing any detainees from Guantanamo to their home countries or third countries willing to take them as refugees unless the Defense Department can meet this exceedingly onerous certification requirement. Basically, before anyone can be released, the Defense Department has to certify that the individual will not engage in any hostile acts when they are returned — something that the Defense Department cannot certify, which is why the FBI and [Defense Secretary] Leon Panetta vigorously opposed these provisions.

    “The effect of that will make it virtually impossible to move people out of Guantanamo. Congress is basically shutting all of the detainees in.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/0...e+Raw+Story%29

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    OBL screwing all those virgins and laughing his ass off as his cheapo attack on WTC leads to US destroying its own civil liberties, kangaroo-court militarization of local police and the judicial system.

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    It was my understanding that Obama REQUESTED that they specifically add US citizens to the detention. The original language EXCLUDED US citizens.
    I have not heard that.

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    OBL screwing all those virgins and laughing his ass off as his cheapo attack on WTC leads to US destroying its own civil liberties, kangaroo-court militarization of local police and the judicial system.

    Somehow I don't think OBL is laughing his ass off...

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    I have not heard that.


    Will you believe the Democrat Chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee?

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    Will you believe the Democrat Chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee?
    People just will not believe me.

    Obama is an authoritarian Marxist. If he could be dictator of the free world, he would love it.

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    idle speculation as to state of mind

    ho hum

    look at his big contributors, WC. Obama is an establishmentarian. authoritarian in some respects, arguably, but hardly Marxist in any ordinary sense. the 1% pre-positioned Obama to be president and he rewarded them with massive bailouts and lax regulatory enforcement in the wake an epochal financial panic.

    what's so Marxist about that? Marxism socializes the means of production, Bush and Obama after him socialized private financial risk.

    on top of that Obama has regulated the health care insurance market in striking and novel ways. it's not exactly cradle to grave care, but it might be a halfway measure, so you might actually have a point there.





    but on the whole, calling Obama a Marxist is so 2008.

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    authoritarianism, enter

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    Will you believe the Democrat Chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee?
    I didn't say I didn't believe it, just hadn't heard it.

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    authoritarianism, enter
    the entrance casts its shadow upon us, perhaps

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    idle speculation as to state of mind

    ho hum

    look at his big contributors, WC. Obama is an establishmentarian. authoritarian in some respects, arguably, but hardly Marxist in any ordinary sense. the 1% pre-positioned Obama to be president and he rewarded them with massive bailouts and lax regulatory enforcement in the wake an epochal financial panic.

    what's so Marxist about that? Marxism socializes the means of production, Bush and Obama after him socialized private financial risk.

    on top of that Obama has regulated the health care insurance market in striking and novel ways. it's not exactly cradle to grave care, but it might be a halfway measure, so you might actually have a point there.

    but on the whole, calling Obama a Marxist is so 2008.
    Bulls eye.

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    Obama, the fraud I didn't vote for

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    Come on Ron Paul...

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