After 16 yrs in Kobe is 3rd leading scorer of the league

[Koolaid_Man]

repaired knee, bad finger, torn tendon in wrist, all legit injuries....

Amazing, Incredible and Outstanding - dude is a machine...

Lebron - 29.9

Melo - 29.1

Kobe - 27.8

[boutons_deux]

he's still an egomaniac asshole

[Koolaid_Man]

he's still an egomaniac asshole

so am I...I speak from experience when I say it's no big deal...

[Barney Stinson]

Amazing!

Past seasons showed Kobe is always scoring better in years the Lakers suck.

So - maybe the scoring champ is still in reach for ya

[Ace]

Wow after 9 games? Lakers also sitting at an amazing 5-4 record. Kobe getting them off to a great start...

[Leetonidas]

How many seasons did Jordan play?

[Koolaid_Man]

How many seasons did Jordan play?

in an era where there were no Durant's, Wade's, Lebron's, Iverson's, Tmac's, and Rose's...yeah I get it

[Koolaid_Man]

and only played against an aging Bird and Magic...that Jordan was amazing (smh)

[Koolaid_Man]

if Duncan>Malone then those two les against Utah don't count for ...lol

[Leetonidas]

in an era where there were no Durant's, Wade's, Lebron's, Iverson's, Tmac's, and Rose's...yeah I get it

In an era where there was hand-checking and big men could camp in the lane. Also lol irrelevant what do those players have to do with Kobe? Only Iverson/T-Mac have been around as long as Kobe. Kobe has at least 6 years on everyone else

[Killakobe81]

this we know:

Kobe is a once in a generation player

Kobe appears to be an ass-hole ...but the reason why you guys care about his adultery, demeanor just baffles me. I dont like certain players but I don't obsess over those or Kobe either.

[JamStone]

shoot until the wrist falls off

[Muser]

this we know:

Kobe is a once in a generation player

Kobe appears to be an ass-hole ...but the reason why you guys care about his adultery, demeanor just baffles me. I dont like certain players but I don't obsess over those or Kobe either.

Are you surprised when lakerfan is making tons of kobe threads a week?

[Trill Clinton]

my :

[Ace]

Are you surprised when Kobefan is making tons of kobe threads a week?

fixed. N!gga could care less about the Lakers without Kobe. It's always about his numbers, even with the record they have....

[Proxy]

and only played against an aging Bird and Magic...that Jordan was amazing (smh)

Serious question... what is your case for saying Kobe is better than MJ if stats, accolades, and hand checking on the perimeter support MJ dominating? Pippen was great, as was Rodman, but MJ is the only player to lead a dynasty without a low post scoring threat; something Kobe never came close to doing... do you just ignore all the facts?

I know, I know. You do the troll thing... could you come up with something more original? This Kobe GOAT has been going on for a decade... are you guys not intelligent enough to come up with something else, or do you plan on spending the rest of your insignificant life playing this Kobe guzzler act to get fans up in arms?

[Leetonidas]

fixed. N!gga could care less about the Lakers without Kobe. It's always about his numbers, even with the record they have....

Very true. These gots are already jumping ship but not hopping off Kobe's . Pretty disgusting how people can attempt to live through the accomplishments of someone they've never even met before

[Koolaid_Man]

my :

$40 is all I'd be willing to pay....and only in the club...

[Koolaid_Man]

Very true. These gots are already jumping ship but not hopping off Kobe's . Pretty disgusting how people can attempt to live through the accomplishments of someone they've never even met before

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[daslicer]

Pretty disgusting how people can attempt to live through the accomplishments of someone they've never even met before

There is term for that which is sycophants that is what most Kobe fans are.

Anyways Kobe is shooting percentage which is 43 percent. I consider 45 percent shooting average and anything above that number to be good. Durant and Lebron are having much more impressive seasons considering both are shooting above 50 percent and are scoring a lot which means they have been very efficient unlike Kobe. One of the huge reasons I have never respected Kobe is due to the fact he consistently shoots horrible percentages there is nothing impressive about scoring 40 points on 40% shooting it means you have gotten your numbers to the detriment of your team.

[TDMVPDPOY]

its clear this tool wants to ascend the all time scoring list, he doesnt wanna pass the torch to bynum...

[Koolaid_Man]

There is term for that which is sycophants that is what most Kobe fans are.

Anyways Kobe is shooting percentage which is 43 percent. I consider 45 percent shooting average and anything above that number to be good. Durant and Lebron are having much more impressive seasons considering both are shooting above 50 percent and are scoring a lot which means they have been very efficient unlike Kobe. One of the huge reasons I have never respected Kobe is due to the fact he consistently shoots horrible percentages there is nothing impressive about scoring 40 points on 40% shooting it means you have gotten your numbers to the detriment of your team.

I feel your pain

[Leetonidas]

I assume Allen probably takes a lot more three point shots than Kobe

[Koolaid_Man]

Serious question... what is your case for saying Kobe is better than MJ if stats, accolades, and hand checking on the perimeter support MJ dominating? Pippen was great, as was Rodman, but MJ is the only player to lead a dynasty without a low post scoring threat; something Kobe never came close to doing... do you just ignore all the facts?

I know, I know. You do the troll thing... could you come up with something more original? This Kobe GOAT has been going on for a decade... are you guys not intelligent enough to come up with something else, or do you plan on spending the rest of your insignificant life playing this Kobe guzzler act to get fans up in arms?

Go back and re-read some of my greatest hit threads you lazy you...

now let me just say that according to Phil MJ was never asked to do what Kobe was asked to do which is facilitate and score and defend the teams best opposing player. MJ never played with Shaq so his stats would look better since he dominated the ball. MJ never played with the caliber compe ion that Kobe has on both sides of the ball...



Let’s look at MJ’s compe ion at either guard position during his prime.. His prime era was lacking with the exception of 3 players it was relatively light if you ask me. He also faced pretty much weak defenders on a nightly basis. He was a better defender by virtue of playing inferior players. If Kobe had to defend MJ’s compe ion of the 90’s he’d look ALL-World defender too. Lol
John Stockton, Tim Hardaway, Gary Payton, Reggie Miller, Dominique Wilkens, Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, Rolondo Blackman, Fat Lever, Chris Mullin, Hersey Hawkins, Ricky Pierce, Alvin Robertson, Clyde Drexler, Jeff Hornacek, Dan Majerele, Terry Porter, Kenny Anderson, Mark Price, John Starks, Mookie Blaylock, Mitch Richmond, Glen Rice, Terrell Brandon, Christian Laettner, Steve Smith, Kenny Smith, Bobby Phils, Craig Ehlo, Muggsy Bouges etc etc….

Kobe has always dealt with compe ion at the guard spot on both ends of the ball all the ing time…

Offensive side: Reggie Miller, Allen Iverson, Grant Hill, T-MAC, Vince Carter, Michael Redd, Jason Kidd, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Lebron James, Kevin Durant, Paul Pierece, Ray Allen, Derick Rose, Steve Nash, Russell Westbrook, Rondo, Monta Ellis, Mike Bibby, Joe Johnson, Mike Finley, CP3, Baron Davis, etc etc

Defensive side: Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen, Arron Afflalo, Thebo Shefalosa, Dahntay Jones, James Posey, Tayshaun Prince, Doug Christie, Rueben Patterson, Matt Barnes, Tony Allen, Shane Battier, Raja Bell, Stephen Jackson, Eric Snow, Andre Igoudala, Nicolas Batum



So in conclusion the only time MJ had to work hard was during the 80’s in which he flamed out., repeatedly. The Western conference has been very strong for the last decade + with the Mavericks (10 straight 50 + wins), the Spur le yrs, and the Wylie Coyote Suns, along with the Blazers/ Kings in the earlier part of the decade.

MJ- One of the greatest ever, ok fine but “The greatest ever”, hands down? No. He;s not the greatest scorer (a Laker is - Kareem) He’s not the greatest stats guy ( a Laker is Wilt) and he’s not the greatest ring bearer ( a Celtic is – Bill Russell) MJ is called the best because during the 90’s basketball was boring and he brought excitement back to it as it was fading. That’s it and that’s all.

The biggest difference between Kobe & MJ is that Kobe was able to win without another Hall of Famer playing alongside him. MJ couldn't do squat without Pippen. This should put an end to it all really:

Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

.430 win %
0 les
0 MVPs
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
1-9 playoff record
0 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year



Kobe without Snaq (6 seasons):

.611 win %
3 Finals appearances
2 Championships
1 MVP (Reg season)
2 MVP (Finals)
5 NBA All Defense 1st Team
81 points in 1 game
62 points in 3 quarters (outscored Mavs all by himself)
4 straight 50+ pt games
30 straight 40+ games averaged 40 for a month


Kobe 3 Seasons without Shaq and Gasol:

.492 win %
0 les
1 Regular Season MVP
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
4-8 playoff record
3 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year

[cobbler]

Kobe is a great shooter. His shot selection is poor. Ray Allen shoots a lower percentage than Kobe, yet he's considered one of the best all time. How is Kobe an average shooter when he shoots a better percentage than Ray Allen? At the end of the day, Kobe is doing something that no guard has ever done in their career. The guy is a machine.

Here's another one the the masses of Kobe Obsessers always ing he shoots to much and never passes the ball.

Lead the league last year in assists from the 2 spot. Go figure!