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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    It's bad business all the way around...we all know that Duncan isn't / wasn't better than Bird so all this does is inflate his ego...Duncan hasn't contributed the excitement to the game he hasn't saved the game the way that Magic and Bird did so his passing Bird on the scoring list is a joke...

    and no this isn't the same as the Kobe / MJ comparisons...Kobe is beloved globally and has contributed to basketball as much as MJ did from a PR and marketing perspective...He's added excitement to the game...Duncan has not and therefore his accomplishment is far less impressive...

    tbh

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Nice try.

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    I'm with Kool on this one.

    Is like Kobe passing Malone, Kareem and MJ.

    Clearly, Kobe is much worse than they are. And only reason he ever scored so much was because he always hid behind bigger players that had to take Kobe's hand every single time.

    We all know Kobe can't win by himself.

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    I'm with Kool on this one.

    Is like Kobe passing Malone, Kareem and MJ.

    Clearly, Kobe is much worse than they are. And only reason he ever scored so much was because he always hid behind bigger players that had to take Kobe's hand every single time.

    We all know Kobe can't win by himself.
    No you're not either..you can't even begin to comprehend what I'm stressing...I'm speaking that real while you with that bull ...

    Duncan should not be in the conversation with Magic & Bird, and MJ & Kobe...that's a special group and to have a lame boring ass player of his caliber pass Bird is pretty ing annoying...real players know Duncan doesn't belong in that group...so we'll just ignore Bird's point total and look at what he's done overall from a contribution stand-point...Bird wasn't boring nor lame...Bird helped revolutionize the game..can't say the same for Duncan

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    I'm with Kool on this one.

    Is like Kobe passing Malone, Kareem and MJ.

    Clearly, Kobe is much worse than they are. And only reason he ever scored so much was because he always hid behind bigger players that had to take Kobe's hand every single time.

    We all know Kobe can't win by himself.
    +1

    When you put it like that, Kool really has a point.

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    +1

    When you put it like that, Kool really has a point.

    Pau's vagina monologues is really make Kobe look good...the worse it looks for Pau the more we can see how Kobe carried him...you guys need Pau to do well otherwise you lose the main part of your lame argument...

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    The Wemby Assembly z0sa's Avatar
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    lol thinking Pau's production now has anything to do with the two les he brought LA.

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Kobe isnt better than Bird either

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    kobe isnt better than bird either
    +1

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Pau's vagina monologues is really make Kobe look good...the worse it looks for Pau the more we can see how Kobe carried him...you guys need Pau to do well otherwise you lose the main part of your lame argument...
    Pau already did well; he proved your argument that Kobe isn't all that great right. And your posts and threads about pursuit of Dwight Howard put an exclamation mark on it.

    Good job

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    No you're not either..you can't even begin to comprehend what I'm stressing...I'm speaking that real while you with that bull ...

    Duncan should not be in the conversation with Magic & Bird, and MJ & Kobe...that's a special group and to have a lame boring ass player of his caliber pass Bird is pretty ing annoying...real players know Duncan doesn't belong in that group...so we'll just ignore Bird's point total and look at what he's done overall from a contribution stand-point...Bird wasn't boring nor lame...Bird helped revolutionize the game..can't say the same for Duncan
    I'll be honest here, that is about right for Tim ...he aint quite in the MJ, Kareem Kobe and Magic class. But a case can be made that Duncan is greater than Bird, KG and Shaq.

    Sure, Bird had more impact league wide ...but Duncan put a whole franchise on his back and carried his version of Gasol/Bird to the promise land.He als o was the best player on the only 4 les they have. That trumps Bird 3 for a team that has 17 ...tbh. Not sure I definitely would put Duncan over Bird but I might ...

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    ...he aint quite in the MJ, Kareem Kobe and Magic class...


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    Kobe is better than bird, the Bird-man has said it himself. That is one thing I liked about Bird, he had no problem admitting Magic and MJ were greater than him.

    I bet most of this forum never saw Bird play in his prime.

    LOL i noticed Zosa had no problem with me saying Duncan MAYBE greater than Bird ...

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    Nobody gives a about scoring in Basketball. Ask someone how many career points Kareem Scored? Who cares?

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    It may have taken more seasons but Duncan has more rings, points, rebounds and blocks. Bird has more MVP's and he got them when the award was more legit ...but that should not be held against Duncan because the award has turned to crap. also Past his prime David and Manu are his two greatest team-mates ... Kevin McHale was better than both.

    Again not saying he is greater but a case can be made.
    Kobe is greater than Bird, i wont even waste my time with that argument ...

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    ...he aint quite in the MJ, Kareem, Kobe, and Magic class.
    nice try

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    There is no try ... I said it.

    No one cares about the number but most reall ball fans know he is the all-time scoring leader ... plus there is that Skechers commercial

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    Kobe is better than bird, the Bird-man has said it himself. That is one thing I liked about Bird, he had no problem admitting Magic and MJ were greater than him.

    I bet most of this forum never saw Bird play in his prime.

    LOL i noticed Zosa had no problem with me saying Duncan MAYBE greater than Bird ...
    Bird is a well known sucker

    Kobe is the better athlete but that's it

    Bird was a more complete player, way more clutch, a better facilitator and a better team defensive player

    It looks like you are the one who never saw Bird play in his prime.

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    Killa

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    No compromise. I won't dispute or comment on Duncan's place in the history of the game.
    It would not be fair, and I'm afraid I'd be biased.

    But...

    Kobe is no greater than Bird or Shaq. As you said: Bird MVP's ment something. And Kobe only has one of the "non-legit ones".
    And Shaq, on his prime, was unstoppable. You can't say that from any current player, young or old.

    No you're not either..you can't even begin to comprehend what I'm stressing...I'm speaking that real while you with that bull ...

    Duncan should not be in the conversation with Magic & Bird, and MJ & Kobe...that's a special group and to have a lame boring ass player of his caliber pass Bird is pretty ing annoying...real players know Duncan doesn't belong in that group...so we'll just ignore Bird's point total and look at what he's done overall from a contribution stand-point...Bird wasn't boring nor lame...Bird helped revolutionize the game..can't say the same for Duncan
    Magic was a . Who gives a about him.
    Yet, even as a , he still much greater than Kobe.

    Bird was much greater than Kobe. The guy won stuff by himself.

    MJ? Kobe is not in the same level as MJ. No, I'll clarify this.
    Kobe is several levels below MJ's level. There is no point of comparison.
    Kobe will never ever be on the same level.

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    No compromise. I won't dispute or comment on Duncan's place in the history of the game.
    It would not be fair, and I'm afraid I'd be biased.

    But...

    Kobe is no greater than Bird or Shaq. As you said: Bird MVP's ment something. And Kobe only has one of the "non-legit ones". And Shaq, on his prime, was unstoppable. You can't say that from any current player, young or old.



    Magic was a . Who gives a about him.
    Yet, even as a , he still much greater than Kobe.

    Bird was much greater than Kobe. The guy won stuff by himself.

    MJ? Kobe is not in the same level as MJ. No, I'll clarify this.
    Kobe is several levels below MJ's level. There is no point of comparison.
    Kobe will never ever be on the same level.

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    Comparing Kobe to MJ is like comparing Naruto with Susuke (sp?)

    Right, luva?

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    Comparing Kobe to Bird is like comparing Atari to PS3.
    Well, since PSN has been penetrated quite often, you may be right

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    Veteran Killakobe81's Avatar
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    No compromise. I won't dispute or comment on Duncan's place in the history of the game.
    It would not be fair, and I'm afraid I'd be biased.

    But...

    Kobe is no greater than Bird or Shaq. As you said: Bird MVP's ment something. And Kobe only has one of the "non-legit ones".
    And Shaq, on his prime, was unstoppable. You can't say that from any current player, young or old.



    Magic was a . Who gives a about him.
    Yet, even as a , he still much greater than Kobe.

    Bird was much greater than Kobe. The guy won stuff by himself.

    MJ? Kobe is not in the same level as MJ. No, I'll clarify this.
    Kobe is several levels below MJ's level. There is no point of comparison.
    Kobe will never ever be on the same level.
    calm down I already said MJ was greater than Kobe ...and that Kobe would not catch him for GOAT. but thanks for agreeing with me

    So if i was right about that then ...

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    luva is sayin Kobe is the Atari? Just noticed the order.

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