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DX currently has 7 bigs going in the top 10. The other 3 are two small forwards and one shooting guard.. shaping up to be an interesting draft.
Spurs' 2012 draft picks :
Spurs will have the 59th pick of the draft.
Players available for the 2012 draft :
International players born in 1990 and college senior are automatically eligible.
College underclassmen and international players born in 91, 92 or 93 can enter in the draft.
Key dates :
April 7 : Nike Hoop Summit in Portland
April 10 : Teams can start workouts with automatically eligible players.
April 10 : Early entry withdrawal deadline to keep NCAA eligibility.
April 11 - April 14 : Portsmouth invitational tournament
April 29 : Early entry eligibility deadline, teams can start workouts with them.
May 30 : Draft Lottery.
June 6 - June 8 : Draft combine in Chicago.
June 10 - June 12 : Adidas Eurocamp in Treviso.
June 18 : Early entry withdrawal deadline.
June 28 : NBA Draft in NY.
Workouts list:
Tu Holloway
Justin Hamilton (May 7)
Kyle O'Quinn (May 22)
Robbie Hummel (May 22)
Draymond Green (May 15)
Jorge Gutierrez
Ashton Gibbs
Jonathon Simmons (May 22)
Scoop Jardine (May 22)
Quincy Acy (May 22)
Kyle Weems (May 16)
Wesley Witherspoon (May 23)
Henry Sims (May 23)
Jason Clark (May 23)
Andre Drummond (interview only)
Olek Czyz (June 24)
JaMychal Green
Ricardo Ratliffe (June 24)
Kevin Jones
Links :
Draftexpress
Nbadraft
A blog on European prospects
Espn draft page
Wiki on the lottery
Future draft picks
NCAA players stats
Euroleague players stats
Last edited by Bruno; 06-26-2012 at 09:53 AM.
DX currently has 7 bigs going in the top 10. The other 3 are two small forwards and one shooting guard.. shaping up to be an interesting draft.
Richards not ready for NBA. Too weak for bottom ACB team, and now playing in Europe`s 3rd string leauge.
Unfortunately barring more injuries the spurs will win too many games and again be picking in the 20s. So I don't expect any big impact player through the draft.
Maybe Rivers will slip to where the Spurs will be picking. I still see them as a 7 seed or so, so that should be somewhere from 18-22.
18-22 Seems like the right range. I can easily see The top 5 Eastern Teams ahead of us, as well as OKC and LAC. Then, probably end up anywhere from 3rd seed to 8th. Playoffs still seem likely with Manu coming back.
I don't think we can have a solid knowledge of team needs yet, other than ruling out SF, which seems sorted going forward.
Select a PF in the draft
No position is ruled out during the draft..If you think Leonard is good enough for the spurs not inquire about sf's this summer then you do not know the spurs front office very well.
Agreed, In most cases, like drafting the best player available. As far as team needs, a big would definitely be nice (although I wonder what the Lorbek situation will be like.) A legit PG would be pretty nice too.
If we were going to do a Hill trade 2.0 this coming draft involving Blair, how many (if any) slots would that bump us up in this draft assuming our pick is around 20? Despite his recent play, you have to think his contract (size/unguaranteed) has value.
If you remember the Spurs did not move up in the draft with the Hill trade, they got Indiana's pick outright and still kept there late 1st rd pick..If the spurs were to throw in there 1st along with Blair it better be for at least a mid lottery pick (6-11) since it is looking like they will fall between 18-24 with there current record which is not to bad a pick for the spurs..If the spurs can simply move Blair for a pick I would expect the same value as Hill gave in pick status. Just my opinion
In a draft as deep as this years, especially when it comes to bigs - no way whatsoever! It also would depend on what other teams think of his health. I'd say Spurs pick ( 18-24 ) and Blair could fetch something between 12th and 15th in this particular year's draft, no more.
his contract is almost perfect for the other team. they get one year (on just 1 million), full Bird rights and he will be a RFA in 2013. that said, I still don't think he can bring back a package like GH did. Indy really wanted him (the hometown factor helped the case as well) and they (like many other teams) obviously were not intrigued by the draft class. 2012 GH wouldn't have landed us a #15 pick.
so, a late 1st rounder is what we could expect from a Blair trade. and a late 1st rounder helps you to trade up 3 or 4 spots at best, if you add it to your own pick. or you just use both 1st rounders, which will be something #20 and #27. (very unlikely, considering the number of available roster spots for 2012/13). if the Spurs plan to bring in Lorbek and De Colo, it's more likely they go for multiple 2nd rounders, or a 2013 1st round pick.
You may be right, but Blair should only be a senior in college this season so he has age and 2 yrs of NBA experience under his belt which may attract a team instead of going with the 6th or 7th best big in the mid lottery..With blairs cheap contract, i see no reason why they would give him up and there own 1st to move up only 6-8 spots in the draft..
Youre right, it's really 2 scenarios: a straight Blair + other considerations for a 1st rounder OR that plus the 1st swap. This is definitely a deeper draft, but I wonder if under the first scenario, if the decent bigs get taken early whether a team in the early teens does the swap. This begs the question, if you put Blair in the mix among the bigs in the drAft where would he rank?
would rather move blair and 1st round pick and move up to a late lottery pick(12-14) & take best player available. dont really need to worry if its a big because spurs also have Lorbek ready to suit up in silver and black.
, id even think about flipping Danny Green or Gary Neal if it meant moving up to get a guy spurs really like
I think I'd flip Neal, not Green, because De Colo should basically fill the same role as Neal, and it's hard to put both on the court at once.
I think a trade of those two(Neal and Blair) to a team that's in the FA game would be good. Contracts are good, and only a small amount above cap holds, and a 1st round pick could be enough that a trade would increase the cap. E.g, New Jersey could look to trade The Rockets pick(#13) for Neal and Blair, and have 2 role players on cheap contracts to surround Deron and Dwight. Same idea could work for other teams looking to maximise cap space(Obviously only by a little bit), as long as 100% of the pick contract + Roster Hold Charge on cap< Neal + Blair Salaries, though we're not getting that high, 13 probably seems like about the ceiling of that package.
Other option to accept a bad(ish) contract from one of those teams to get an additional pick.
Most people won't agree but I think we have a hole at the PG position. Parker's been playing for a long time and TJ Ford has a rich history of being injured. Corey Joseph is too raw and we can't afford to wait. If the best player available at the time we draft is indeed a PG, I would love to pull the trigger.
With that said, obviously the priority is a big right now. Depending on Lorbek, we main not need to look for a big in the draft (as most of the notable ones are top 15 anyway.)
Pick swap + Neal/Green/Blair is great option for Spurs. With possiblity of De Colo and Lorbek coming from Europe, drafting best avaible player with 10-15 pick is smart. With RJ gone Spurs will have many slots for talented player, which should be drafted around those places.
if we doin any trades and absorbin another teams trash contract, they better throw in draft picks
with the new tax penalty rules coming in, we should milk some teams dry since we under the cap....or we can do what some of the other t eams thats are under the cap playin mind games with teams that are already committed to big team salaries tryin to hold onto their players going into FA, we should just throw in MLES and high offers to see them match and pay the penalty tax, while we reap what they sow at the end of the season when stern starts distributing the tax revenue to teams under the salary cap
We really need a PF some players that I like are:
1. Rudy Gobert PF - 6'11 22yrs old
2. James Mcadoo PF - 6'9 19yrs old
3. Augusto Cesar Lima PF - 6'10 20yrs old *Depending on spine injury
4. Patrick Young PF 6'9 20yrs old
Also like one SF:
1.Jeff Taylor 6'7 22yrs old
If we amnesty RJ, we would need a backup SF, if Green leaves for free agency. Lebryan Nash(only 19,so much pontential, but has bad at ude, and not playing that great at OKS), and Jeff Taylor(Good shooter, and Defender but inconsistent, and is 22).
I like the idea of using Blair to move up or get another pick, but if we go international Lima, and Aldemir would be at the top of my list.
So we are set at PG....even though Corey still needs a full year in the D league to see if he will work out. It is funny but the two guys they draft last year are like Yeang and Yang...Kawhi never smiles and Joseph never stops smiling..lol
So move to SG....Manu, Neal, Green - So I am looking at the Spurs either trading Anderson or letting him go.
SF- This is slightly tougher but I think we will either try to trade RJ or Amensty him. Though if we draft Jeff Taylor then I think it's a 100% he will be gone. I hope Kawhi will be working on his mid range game/ball skills this summer
PF - I don't see Blair staying so look at trading him and probably we draft a PF in this draft.........forgot to mention PF - Tony Mitc as someone to look at..
Center...Duncan/Splitter
Then looking at our foreign players the only one I see having a chance next year would be Hanga...he can play both SG and SF..
* Your right Nash has crazy potential but is also crazy ie..Artest..
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