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so he gone act like he didn't play alongside the best PF ever? Bob is cool, though. I bumped into him a few times at Bar 11.
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1. "I think Phil Jackson started that feud ... Phil liked it when there was some sort of conflict ..." - Shaq and Kobe have said the same.
2. Later it was blown out of proportion by the media and both players started doing something that didn’t make sense.
3. Horry also says Hakeem Olajuwon and Bryant are the best players he has ever played with. In the case of Bryant, he particularly credits his unmatched dedication.
Horry dropping pearls for yall that ..."just believe the hype" ...
so he gone act like he didn't play alongside the best PF ever? Bob is cool, though. I bumped into him a few times at Bar 11.
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1. "I think Phil Jackson started that feud ... Phil liked it when there was some sort of conflict ..." - Shaq and Kobe have said the same.
2. Later it was blown out of proportion by the media and both players started doing something that didn’t make sense.
3. Horry also says Hakeem Olajuwon and Bryant are the best players he has ever played with. In the case of Bryant, he particularly credits his unmatched dedication.
Horry dropping pearls for yall that ..."just believe the hype" ......
Seriously... I already knew this but it's always good to hear it from other teammates...Hakeem and Kobe the best he's ever played with..didn't even mention Shaq or Duncan....the guys you know who supposedly were the team leaders...Hey Horry does have 7 rings so he's an authority on this subject - no one should argue it...
Spur fan want to rewrite history...Mav fan is completely oblivious and Heat fan wasn't even born then...A Prime Kobe leaves a Prime Lebron in the dust...even MJ acknowledges that...people want to forget Kobe's prime years but that N|gga put in some amazing work...It's why he has 5 rings and sits at #5 all time in scoring...
Kobe said Tim is the GOAT PF
N|gga get over it....Big Shot BOB has spoken...It's Kobe and Kakeem...
He's on the ing money too...right along with my fave 5 all-time team:
Magic
MJ
Kobe
Kareem
Hakeem
.
He also told Vanessa he'd never cheat again
Okay I thought so. he told me the same at Bar 11.
You said Kori was your Aunt.
Tim definitely deserves to be in the convo for GOAT PF, I would probably vote for him as well. But he is not as good as Hakeem or Kobe ...
after that tramp stamp revelation he has my vote
Obviously , Horry never played with MJ, Magic or Bird
HE is not as good as Hakeem
But TD won 4 les as the man
Unlike Kobe.........
Oh wait
The souce is Sports.ru?
In case you don't know, they invent a lot of stories
They are notorious for making up; just ask some NHL players
Oh dont get me wrong ... if we stacking careers I would give Duncan the nod over Hakeem and before the last 4 years I would have given him the edge over Kobe too.
But the question was just who was the best players he played with. Just because someone was a better player doesnt mean he had the better career. Shaq was greater than Duncan at his best, but to me Duncan's career was greater. even with the drop-off the past few years ...
Yeah but look at the source
As mentioned in my previous post .... not so credible
it's their sports site I understand you have to soften the blow...
but those are pretty bold statements for a guy who never defended his crown...also are you basing this solely on les what's your criteria because Spur fan dont base things on les - remember
Come on Kool, you know when comparing GREAT players that are close ... I go with rings to separate the HOF'ers from the all-time greats. But dumbasses try to throw Horry in the convo, which makes no sense at all.it's their sports site I understand you have to soften the blow...
but those are pretty bold statements for a guy who never defended his crown...also are you basing this solely on les what's your criteria because Spur fan dont base things on les - remember
Duncan is the boss at PF, but he is just not on the same level with those two ...
And Horry said the best HE had played with ...why would someone mention MJ, Bird or MAgic who never played with Horry?
Not on the same level as Kobe when he has:Come on Kool, you know when comparing GREAT players that are close ... I go with rings to separate the HOF'ers from the all-time greats. But dumbasses try to throw Horry in the convo, which makes no sense at all.
Duncan is the boss at PF, but he is just not on the same level with those two ...
And Horry said the best HE had played with ...why would someone mention MJ, Bird or MAgic who never played with Horry?
More Finals MVPs.
Better overall playoff statistics.
More les won as the undisputed best player on his team.
Sure.
I figured it'd be interesting to compare Kobe and Duncan's individual rankings and see who ranks better overall.
Points: Kobe 4th, Duncan 7th.
Rebounds: Duncan 5th, Kobe 40th.
Blocks: Duncan 4th, Kobe 35th.
Assists: Kobe 11th, Duncan 32th.
Steals: Kobe 7th, Duncan 56th.
True Shooting %: Duncan 94th, Kobe 115th.
Offensive rating: Kobe 102nd, Duncan 103rd.
Defensive rating: Duncan 15th, Kobe 142nd.
Win Shares: Duncan 6th, Kobe 9th.
PER: Duncan 5th, Kobe 20th.
Finals MVPs: Duncan 3 (in 4 Finals appearances), Kobe 2 (in 7 Finals appearances).
As you can see, both players win the categories they're supposed to. Kobe wins the perimeter stats, like steals and assists; and Duncan wins the big man stats, like rebounds and blocks. However, Duncan takes every advanced stat but one: offensive rating. And even then, Kobe is only one place above Duncan in that category, while Duncan is significantly ranked higher in all other advanced areas.
Now we know Kobefan will dismiss advanced stats because they have never been favorable to their boy, but as much as they will want to deny it, advanced stats are a legitimate statistical measurement and are useful when comparing players.
Finally tally: Duncan 7, Kobe 4.
"Jesse Blanchard did a good job of explaining this during the faithful Daily Dime chat when he stated: “Kobe Bryant has been known to shut down his opponent whereas Tim Duncan was known to shut down entire offenses by himself”. Indeed, Duncan’s productivity as well as his efficiency have made the Spurs team a championship contender throughout his tenure in San Antonio while the same cannot be said about Bryant."
"There really isn’t any diplomatic way to this: Tim Duncan’s playoff performances essentially run circles over Kobe Bryant’s."
"Not only has Tim Duncan been better than Kobe Bryant during his entire career, one can only wonder: were we wrong in selecting Kobe Bryant as the player of the decade? It would sure seem as such."
Boiled down:::
Kobe: 5
tired old bag Duncan: 4
let me repeat...a 1st option in SA is merely a 3rd option in LA...and don't you forget it midget...
First, let’s look at the regularized adjusted +/- (RAPM) for this year alone. There is a decent amount of error when looking at this sample size, but it’s a good starting place. Here are the top 20 players according to the amount of love they got in All-Defensive team votes this year, sorted from best to worst by defensive RAPM:
Below Grant Hill
But will still make a in' all-defensive team.
Over his career:
Is the trend clear? There have been 3 players who’ve dominated the All-Defensive team for the past decade: Bryant, Garnett, and Tim Duncan. Over any extended period, Garnett dominates the list, Duncan is near the top of the list, and Bryant is pretty much at the bottom.
Being at the bottom is visually striking, but it’s actually not that damning in and of itself. If my knock on Kobe was that he was only the 20th best defender in the league on average, this would not be that horrendous of a knock. After all, big men dominate these kind of lists, maybe he’s still one of the top 5 or so perimeter defenders in the game, no?
No. The more damning thing is that every metric I’ve broken down here has Kobe’s defensive impact as utterly average. -0.8, -0.6, 0.1, 0.1, these are not numbers of someone who is consistently a game changer on defense. The other guys given even half the love Kobe’s gotten over the year, pretty consistently do turn up on these metric doing quite well.
http://asubs uteforwar.com/2011/05...er-imaginable/
Kirk Hinrich level defender!
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