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Awesome trade!!!
Plus Minny won in Dallas tonight ...
But the ample cap space will be worth it's weight in gold ...
sons apparently the deadline just passed and the Hornets couldn't reach a deal with the always injured, chucker Eric Gordon who was asking for 5 years, $80M. Oh and keep in mind that he has only played in 2 damn games for the Hornets this season and trying to demand a max contract while being injured and reports of him to be out at least another 3 weeks as well. The guy is a solid shooting guard, but definitely not worth $16 million a year even when healthy and especially not at this point. Has anyone checked his stats? I never realized just how injury prone he is. dude has missed like 70 games over the last two seasons and is going to miss about half (and probably more) of the season this year.
sons this is a good thing for the Hornets. Eric Gordon is too injury prone and too unreliable even when healthy to be worth that type of money. We all saw how well the last big contract worked out for the Hornets with Peja and his 5 year, $65M deal. The Hornets got about a half a season of good basketball from him, watched him sit on the bench from injures for about 3 years, and then watched him shoot air balls for another year and a half. God bless
Awesome trade!!!
Plus Minny won in Dallas tonight ...
But the ample cap space will be worth it's weight in gold ...
It was a great trade regardless. He's still a RFA, they can let the market set his value.
So what, your star tangent is Marco Belinelli/Chris Kaman? Cool dood.
son we're not going to do this season in case you haven't noticed that by now. however locking up $80 million to a player who stays injured every season isn't the answer to rebuilding.
great? Hardly. More cost effective? Definitely. Gordon is the one decent player they got and he is injury prone. And though a RFA, no way they match any large deals.
DPG you were right they could probably of gotten more for Paul, but where you were flat out wrong was...about this trade ... it wasn't it.
It's Ok though, you still a boss player in my book ... and to think people were sucking you off for your debates on the matter.
Then some of those same cats turn around and cast you aside when the exec seats were handed out. Then giving you menial jobs like help determining the 20th member ...makes no sense, DPG ...makes no sense.
$80 million?
I like Gordon, but not at that ing price tag.
They will have two top 10 picks, cap space and can either get Gordon cheaper if no one makes him a max offer or sign and trade him.
I was right about the trade. Even without Gordon it's still better than las trade. You still don't get it. Others do which is why they side me.great? Hardly. More cost effective? Definitely. Gordon is the one decent player they got and he is injury prone. And though a RFA, no way they match any large deals.
DPG you were right they could probably of gotten more for Paul, but where you were flat out wrong was...about this trade ... it wasn't it.
It's Ok though, you still a boss player in my book ... and to think people were sucking you off for your debates on the matter.
Then some of those same cats turn around and cast you aside when the exec seats were handed out. Then giving you menial jobs like help determining the 20th member ...makes no sense, DPG ...makes no sense.
Thing is that draft is very good at the top and with stern running things No's pick will DEFINITELY get them a #1 overall choice. That other pick won't be great and all of the blue chippers will be long gone ...
If your argument is that 2 likely top 10 picks won't give them the opportunity to be better off in this draft you're nuts IMO.
Sure some of the rank and file was blowing smoke for ya ....
From David Thorpe's ESPN chat yesterday ...
As the season is progressing, does it still look like the Hornets got a good deal for CP3? Gordon is hurt (as normal), T'wolves pick is most likely in the middle of the 1st at this rate, and Aminu isn't even a bench player anymore.
David Thorpe (12:20 PM)
I thought it was a bad deal then, and I still do.
It was still a good trade. I'll take it every time. Two lottery picks, and Gordon who the Hornets can match and probably will once they have an owner. They have some good young pieces as well.
That David Thorpe sounds like a smart guy, imo.
Aminu's still the backup SF to Ariza. He played well tonight. He's a project, but has upside.
Gordon needs to stay healthy. If he doesn't and ends up leaving it hurts. We will definitely get an impact player with the 1st pick. The second pick is up in the air, but its still early.
Exactly. Nothing that's transpired has changed my logic. Have things worked out to make it look like the absolute steal it was initially? No. But it's still a damn good deal. I don't care how many pundits you quote; those were the same jack asses boasting over that awful Laker trade.
no promises both those picks are top 10 ... But name me 5 potentially great players after the top 5?
What you don't get I wasnt even arguing that the Lakers deal was great. I was just pissed at the way it was handled. Odom as it turns out has looked like . SO that weakens my case a bit, but the trade is still . I told you that Aminu, Kaman and the Minny pick wasnt as valuable as you made it sound. Not saying at 11 or 12 that pick is not valuable. I just think aminu and Kaman are both trash. So really all they got for a top 2 PG was Gordon and the Minny pick. Despite Paul's hammy they could of and should of done better.
Didn't have to be the Lakers deal but they could of done better. That trade is trash.
No better deals out there. Paul had leverage. Hornets didn't. Also, Hornets needed to blow the whole thing up. Time to start over, rebuild. West is gone, Paul is gone. That era needed to end anyway. The Clippers deal was the best available. The Knicks had no one to offer, the Lakers deal was bad long-term and Paul wouldn't commit to anyone else.
Kaman was gone anyway. He was just throw-in piece. The key was Gordon, another lottery pick, and a chance to start over.
exactly ^
I don't disagree with sitting Gordon for an extended period of time and letting him heal completely. It gives us a better chance to completely tank the season while at the same time making sure Gordon's injury doesn't linger. But regardless, he hasn't proven to be a $16 mil per year player in the NBA.
It's every bit as good as I made it sound. You have your opinion, I just think you are dead wrong and nothing's changed since I said so before it all happened. You keep ignoring the cap space as well and focusing on the "lack of talent" when I argued that part is irrelevant when they got Gordon in the deal. Gordon was the top talent they needed. Who cares about the other players; their value is in their contracts being either large expirings or cheap.
This trade was easily about as good as you could possible hope for in the situation and accomplished everything they needed. Nothing is guaranteed but they gave themselves a legit shot to rebuild and do it well.
The angle of trying to argue this draft sucks outside the top 5 is silly IMO.
Trust me, watched clips a lot last season, he is trash. I'll change my mind if Hornets get a top 5 pick from Minny or someone late in the lottery they strike gold on. Take the Lakers out of it that ship sailed a month ago... Now we are just evaluating the deal on it's own merits. Hornets did not get two lotto picks they would of got one of them on their own suckage ...
They got:
Gordon (top tier young SG)
Kaman (A big, but trash)
Aminu (young but trash, would of asked for Bledsoe instead)
Minny pick (good pick with a slight chance of being great)
That's the best deal they could have gotten, long-term. Their own suckage is important because it helps them secure an impact lottery pick. Team him with a healthy Gordon gives the team a nice duo. Kaman, Aminu are irrelevant really. They may find a better SF in the draft anyway. Paul had leverage and wasn't going anywhere except LA or NY. No better deal was available.
No, if you do the LA trade they are likely a fringe playoff team and don't have the benefit of getting their own top pick, plus the Minny pick which is going to be no worse than 15 and they would be hamstrung with bad contracts/aging players.
sons Eric Gordon has only played in 198 out 264 games in his career and is going to miss at least another 3-4 weeks right now. The dude has just stayed injured ever since his rookie season. Gordon put up 16 points per game during his rookie season playing in 78 games, then put up 16 points per game again during his second season when only playing in 62 games, and last season he put up 22 points per game however people tend to forget that he only played in 56 games last year doing so.
when healthy he is a good, solid, and possibly even a top 7 or 8 shooting guard in the NBA, but the chances of Gordon being healthy is about as good as your chances of winning on a lotto ticket. you're just rolling the dice.
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