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    Worst kept secret ever...

    Nobody wants war with Iran, except AIPAC and Big oil, and for Senator's Lieberman and others, that's enough....




    This comes after US agreed to back a UN resolution to back the UN in military use of force against IRAN

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    Worst kept secret ever...

    Nobody wants war with Iran, except AIPAC and Big oil, and for Senator's Lieberman and others, that's enough....




    This comes after US agreed to back a UN resolution to back the UN in military use of force against IRAN
    LOL...

    If Big oil wants such a war, it would be to reduce foreign imports making oil more expensive via supply and demand. Not because they want their oil. In reality, I don't see big oil backing this. They already have comfortable profits. I guess it's possible, but they stand to lose as many assets I bet as what they would receive in extra profits.

    Keeping Iran from getting nuclear weapons is simply the right thing to do. It really appears they are trying to bring the 12th Imam to this world.
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    If we are going to devote military to this cause, then in my view, we need to train the Israeli soldiers on some of our toys, and give them some. Obama as commander in Chief will just up this type of command.

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    Time to quit talking and bomb Iran's nuclear sites. I believe they are sick enough and dumb enough to use a nuke if/when they get it. I don't see the point in waiting.

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    Time to quit talking and bomb Iran's nuclear sites. I believe they are sick enough and dumb enough to use a nuke if/when they get it. I don't see the point in waiting.
    Agreed. i think Israel will take care of tyhem, and we should only take action if Israel asks for our help.

    Just my opinion. I see no sense in this president trying something this sensitive, and blowing it.

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    Agreed. i think Israel will take care of tyhem, and we should only take action if Israel asks for our help.

    Just my opinion. I see no sense in this president trying something this sensitive, and blowing it.
    Israel should and will do it. It is immenent. We will play some kind of role in it whether Israel wants it or not. Not that I agree with it, but history shows we like to get ours hands dirty.

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    Using the same logic we had 10 years ago, this would be a no brainer. Iran with nukes is way more dangerous than Saddam with nukes. Our country is in no shape financially to do this on our own. I would honestly leave them alone until we get our together (even if that takes decades).

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    I think chances of a war are going down, not up. I don't believe the administration is willing to risk open war in the middle east with gas prices this high. Especially not in an election year. I believe the administration is probably placing heavy pressure on the Israelis behind the scenes to give sanctions more time.

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    US/UK oilcos were kicked out of Iran, like they were kicked out of Iraq. Both countries' oilcos desperately want to get at Iraq's oil. No matter how many $100Bs in oilco profits, the oilcos are NEVER satisfied.

    Iran-with-nukes is just smokescreen, since everybody knows, esp the mullahs, that Iran would be obliterated along with whomever to Iran's first nuke. Guaranteed suicide.

    M.A.D. keep the nuclear war from happening.


    US warriors are being pushed by the oilcos and neo-cons, and of course, the MIC would suck in $100Bs in taxpayers' wealth. MIC/oilco gain, Human-Americans' pain and poverty.

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    Another March to War?


    CNN’s house blockhead, the Goldman-trained ex-finance professional Erin Burnett, came out with a doozie of a broadcast yesterday, a Rumsfeldian jeremiad against the Iranian threat would have fit beautifully in the Saddam’s-sending-drones-at-New-York halcyon days of late 2002. Here’s how the excellent Glenn Greenwald described Burnett’s rant:

    It’s the sort of thing you would produce if you set out to create a mean-spirited parody of mindless, war-hungry, fear-mongering media stars, but you wouldn’t dare go this far because you’d want the parody to have a feel of realism to it, and this would be way too extreme to be believable. She really hauled it all out: WMDs! Terrorist sleeper cells in the U.S. controlled by Tehran! Iran’s long-range nuclear missiles reaching our homeland!!!! She almost made the anti-Muslim war-mongering fanatic she brought on to interview, Rep. Peter King, appear sober and reasonable by comparison.


    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...#ixzz1mqRpqwEd

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    I am just wondering if anyone behind this idea has given any consideration to the fact that Olympic games will be held in London this year?

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    I'm think the English might be aware that London is hosting the Olympics.

    Iran Suspends Shipments of Oil to Britain and France

    PARIS — Iran’s government on Sunday ordered a halt to oil exports to Britain and France, in what may be only an initial response to the European Union’s decision to cut off Iranian oil imports and freeze central bank assets beginning in July.

    Britain and France depend little on Iranian oil, however, so their targeting may be a mostly symbolic act, a function of the strong positions the two nations have taken in trying to halt Iranian nuclear enrichment and to bring pressure to bear on Syria, one of Iran’s closest allies.

    Iran may also be reluctant, when its economy has been damaged by existing sanctions, to deprive itself of revenues from its larger European customers. At the same time, it may be seeking to divide the 27-nation European Union between those who depend on Iranian oil and those who do not.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/wo...er=rss&emc=rss

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    LOL...

    If Big oil wants such a war, it would be to reduce foreign imports making oil more expensive via supply and demand. Not because they want their oil. In reality, I don't see big oil backing this. They already have comfortable profits. I guess it's possible, but they stand to lose as many assets I bet as what they would receive in extra profits.

    Keeping Iran from getting nuclear weapons is simply the right thing to do. It really appears they are trying to bring the 12th Imam to this world.
    Link?

    Otherwise America is about to invade it's 3rd country in a decade. Someone stop us from us

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    If we are going to devote military to this cause, then in my view, we need to train the Israeli soldiers on some of our toys, and give them some. Obama as commander in Chief will just up this type of command.
    Not trying to pick on you but are you knowledge at all on this matter?

    We hand Israel billions of dollars each year including military. They ALREADY have all our

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    Time to quit talking and bomb Iran's nuclear sites. I believe they are sick enough and dumb enough to use a nuke if/when they get it. I don't see the point in waiting.
    LOL !

    ''Let's just bomb them because we don't like them''. I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to see you suit up and go fight Iran yourself

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    Israel should and will do it. It is immenent. We will play some kind of role in it whether Israel wants it or not. Not that I agree with it, but history shows we like to get ours hands dirty.
    Why should Israel randomly bomb another country again?

    Aren't you crying about the treat of Iran bombing Israel & your solution is for Israel to bomb them?

    Hypocrisy runs rampant in this thread

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    Not trying to pick on you but are you knowledge at all on this matter?

    We hand Israel billions of dollars each year including military. They ALREADY have all our
    Yes, I know that. I just don't know the inventory or dollar amount. My point is we should stay clear of this in the man power department. If Israel doesn't have a B2 bomber, lets give or loan them some for example. Same with the newest cruise missiles technology we have.

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    LOL !

    ''Let's just bomb them because we don't like them''. I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to see you suit up and go fight Iran yourself
    What do I have to do with anything?

    I dislike a lot of countries and wouldn't bomb them. Iran has threatened to nuke Israel. I do not take their threats lightly.

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    Why should Israel randomly bomb another country again?

    Aren't you crying about the treat of Iran bombing Israel & your solution is for Israel to bomb them?

    Hypocrisy runs rampant in this thread
    Israel is reacting to Iran.

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    Israel is reacting to Iran.
    Chicken or the Egg argument

    History has proven Israel has reacted like a drunken teenager and pre-emptive striked before (6-days War)

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    Chicken or the Egg argument

    History has proven Israel has reacted like a drunken teenager and pre-emptive striked before (6-days War)
    As long as Iran continues to threaten Israel, they are perfectly within their rights to attack.

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    US/UK oilcos were kicked out of Iran, like they were kicked out of Iraq. Both countries' oilcos desperately want to get at Iraq's oil. No matter how many $100Bs in oilco profits, the oilcos are NEVER satisfied.

    Iran-with-nukes is just smokescreen, since everybody knows, esp the mullahs, that Iran would be obliterated along with whomever to Iran's first nuke. Guaranteed suicide.

    M.A.D. keep the nuclear war from happening.


    US warriors are being pushed by the oilcos and neo-cons, and of course, the MIC would suck in $100Bs in taxpayers' wealth. MIC/oilco gain, Human-Americans' pain and poverty.
    I don't know what your deal is with oil companies, they seem to be your scapegoat with everything that is wrong with the world. In reality you know nothing and see only what you want in order to confirm your super liberal beliefs. Bottom line is that oil companies are far from desperately wanting foreign oil.

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